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Yeah, we are just getting one side. That said, all the possible IP in something like this is in security, reliability, scalability and good UX. Severely doubt

Yeah, we are just getting one side. That said, all the possible IP in something like this is in security, reliability, scalability and good UX. Severely doubt the OP spent much time on that. The CEO is probably just having trouble dealing with stress and is acting out. It happens.

whymauri 5y ago
>The CEO is probably just having trouble dealing with stress and is acting out. It happens. I agree it's not uncommon for first-time founders/CEOs to see phantom ghosts and lash out; however, we should be careful to not normalize that kind of behavior. Founders often hold mentorship or supervisory positions over their current and ex-employees, so it's harmful when they react with aggression and manipulation. At small companies, that betrayal of trust cuts deeper than it does in more common manager-employee relationships, IMO.
MattGaiser 5y ago
> The CEO is probably just having trouble dealing with stress and is acting out. It happens. That doesn't give them a free pass to lash out at people.
michaelmrose 5y ago
Why are we making excuses for highly paid professionals behavior in the public performance of their job.
- passivate 5y ago
  It was a private conversation that was made public.
  - lal 5y ago
    It was a private conversation which Amjad himself stated he intended to turn into a public lawsuit. There should be no expectation of privacy here.
    - passivate 5y ago
      OP apologized and took down the code - which was satisfactory to the Amjad. AFAIK, no lawsuit has been filed. Now, the only reason to make the conversation public is to apply public pressure to make something happen.
      - saagarjha 5y ago
        OP apologized and took down the code so he wouldn't be served with a lawsuit, not because he thought it was fair.
        passivate 5y ago
        I disagree, I don't see it that way. The very first email says "Don't worry, I have no intention [..]". That to me, indicates OP was aware they were in a grey area.
ZephyrBlu 5y ago
It's their job to _not_ act out.
threatofrain 5y ago
The CEO Amjad Masad has been doubling down on his story both here on HN and on Twitter. Also, this is a story told with receipts, and receipts carry a weight of their own. Namely, private emails made public. You can see for yourself whether you'll ever see the other side speak through the language of receipts. It's also notable that Amjad used to work at CodeAcademy on up-and-going interactive coding experiences. Now he has his own company building up-and-going interactive coding experiences. What did Amjad learn while he was at CodeAcademy, being privy to internal business operations?

whymauri 5y ago

>The CEO is probably just having trouble dealing with stress and is acting out. It happens. I agree it's not uncommon for first-time founders/CEOs to see phantom ghosts and lash out; however, we should be careful to not normalize that kind of behavior. Founders often hold mentorship or supervisory positions over their current and ex-employees, so it's harmful when they react with aggression and manipulation. At small companies, that betrayal of trust cuts deeper than it does in more common manager-employee relationships, IMO.

MattGaiser 5y ago

> The CEO is probably just having trouble dealing with stress and is acting out. It happens. That doesn't give them a free pass to lash out at people.

michaelmrose 5y ago

Why are we making excuses for highly paid professionals behavior in the public performance of their job.

passivate 5y ago
It was a private conversation that was made public.
- lal 5y ago
  It was a private conversation which Amjad himself stated he intended to turn into a public lawsuit. There should be no expectation of privacy here.
  - passivate 5y ago
    OP apologized and took down the code - which was satisfactory to the Amjad. AFAIK, no lawsuit has been filed. Now, the only reason to make the conversation public is to apply public pressure to make something happen.
    - saagarjha 5y ago
      OP apologized and took down the code so he wouldn't be served with a lawsuit, not because he thought it was fair.
      - passivate 5y ago
        I disagree, I don't see it that way. The very first email says "Don't worry, I have no intention [..]". That to me, indicates OP was aware they were in a grey area.

ZephyrBlu 5y ago

It's their job to _not_ act out.

threatofrain 5y ago

The CEO Amjad Masad has been doubling down on his story both here on HN and on Twitter. Also, this is a story told with receipts, and receipts carry a weight of their own. Namely, private emails made public. You can see for yourself whether you'll ever see the other side speak through the language of receipts. It's also notable that Amjad used to work at CodeAcademy on up-and-going interactive coding experiences. Now he has his own company building up-and-going interactive coding experiences. What did Amjad learn while he was at CodeAcademy, being privy to internal business operations?