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That's just a propaganda of the CCP to hide the fact that Communism has failed their people and now they need to adopt a certain degree of Capitalism with free

That's just a propaganda of the CCP to hide the fact that Communism has failed their people and now they need to adopt a certain degree of Capitalism with free market to boost the economy. Same thing with the Vietnamese, an attempt to rebrand their Communism.

crazydoggers 5y ago
Actually the propaganda is that China is just a capitalist democratic country that is no longer socialist. From the article: > in July 2011 President Hu Jintao stressed that ‘China is still in the primary stage of socialism and will remain so for a long time to come’ (Xinhua, 2011) China is very very interested in progressing the socialist and finally communist agenda. Believing otherwise is ignorance. Show me the equivalent of the 5th amendment in Chinese law protecting private property rights. And please don’t forget... Chinese courts do not have the power of judicial review and cannot invalidate a statute on the grounds that it violates the constitution... ie China is a totalitarian system. And READ the educational material before commenting!
- irrational 5y ago
  You keep using that word Socialism, but I don’t think it means what you think it means. If you want to let ok at true socialism, look to Scandinavia. China might call what they are doing socialism, but come on, they could call it anything they want and it would still be whatever they want it to be.
- j16sdiz 5y ago
  That's what they claims, but not what they do. This is the amendment you asked for: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/mar/16/china https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/mar/16/china
  - crazydoggers 5y ago
    Again, there’s no judicial review. If you take the communist government to court because they violated the law, the court can’t make the government do anything. The laws are only to promote production to increase the country's productive output. At any time the government can strip you of your property and redistribute it... which HAS happened numerous times already, without recourse, not appropriate compensation. How can you possibly argue that faux property laws mean the country is not socialist?? The sooner the wider community accepts that China is a totalitarian regime with a long term communist agenda, the sooner we can stop allowing them to take advantage of the international community. Property theft, land and sea right violation... corporate espionage. All are part of the official Chinese communist party aims. > Yet China’s courts cannot invoke the constitution in rulings, so such a change will offer limited legal protection to peasants https://www.cfr.org/blog/chinas-retrograde-rural-land-policies https://www.cfr.org/blog/chinas-retrograde-rural-land-polici... How China’s Legal System Enables Intellectual Property Theft https://thediplomat.com/2020/11/how-chinas-legal-system-enables-intellectual-property-theft/ https://thediplomat.com/2020/11/how-chinas-legal-system-enab... Human Rights Practices: China https://www.state.gov/reports/2020-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/china/ https://www.state.gov/reports/2020-country-reports-on-human-...
  - jessedhillon 5y ago
    >The highly symbolic law - which also removed preferential tax rates for foreign companies operating in China - was overwhelmingly passed by the National People's Congress (NPC) on the final day of its annual two-week session in Beijing. Seriously?
- hippari 5y ago
  What I got from your reply is that your samples of socialism are only confined to China. I don't recognize it to be the same as for something like European socialism, China's "socialism" just a name that the CCP would like call themselves ( and this by definition is a propaganda ). >And READ the educational material before commenting! Seems like a real condescending way to reply.

crazydoggers 5y ago

Actually the propaganda is that China is just a capitalist democratic country that is no longer socialist. From the article: > in July 2011 President Hu Jintao stressed that ‘China is still in the primary stage of socialism and will remain so for a long time to come’ (Xinhua, 2011) China is very very interested in progressing the socialist and finally communist agenda. Believing otherwise is ignorance. Show me the equivalent of the 5th amendment in Chinese law protecting private property rights. And please don’t forget... Chinese courts do not have the power of judicial review and cannot invalidate a statute on the grounds that it violates the constitution... ie China is a totalitarian system. And READ the educational material before commenting!

irrational 5y ago
You keep using that word Socialism, but I don’t think it means what you think it means. If you want to let ok at true socialism, look to Scandinavia. China might call what they are doing socialism, but come on, they could call it anything they want and it would still be whatever they want it to be.
j16sdiz 5y ago
That's what they claims, but not what they do. This is the amendment you asked for: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/mar/16/china https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/mar/16/china
- crazydoggers 5y ago
  Again, there’s no judicial review. If you take the communist government to court because they violated the law, the court can’t make the government do anything. The laws are only to promote production to increase the country's productive output. At any time the government can strip you of your property and redistribute it... which HAS happened numerous times already, without recourse, not appropriate compensation. How can you possibly argue that faux property laws mean the country is not socialist?? The sooner the wider community accepts that China is a totalitarian regime with a long term communist agenda, the sooner we can stop allowing them to take advantage of the international community. Property theft, land and sea right violation... corporate espionage. All are part of the official Chinese communist party aims. > Yet China’s courts cannot invoke the constitution in rulings, so such a change will offer limited legal protection to peasants https://www.cfr.org/blog/chinas-retrograde-rural-land-policies https://www.cfr.org/blog/chinas-retrograde-rural-land-polici... How China’s Legal System Enables Intellectual Property Theft https://thediplomat.com/2020/11/how-chinas-legal-system-enables-intellectual-property-theft/ https://thediplomat.com/2020/11/how-chinas-legal-system-enab... Human Rights Practices: China https://www.state.gov/reports/2020-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/china/ https://www.state.gov/reports/2020-country-reports-on-human-...
- jessedhillon 5y ago
  >The highly symbolic law - which also removed preferential tax rates for foreign companies operating in China - was overwhelmingly passed by the National People's Congress (NPC) on the final day of its annual two-week session in Beijing. Seriously?
hippari 5y ago
What I got from your reply is that your samples of socialism are only confined to China. I don't recognize it to be the same as for something like European socialism, China's "socialism" just a name that the CCP would like call themselves ( and this by definition is a propaganda ). >And READ the educational material before commenting! Seems like a real condescending way to reply.