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Wow! Building this in 7 weeks is an incredible feat. I am the cofounder of Budibase - an open source alt to Retool, Mendix, Outsystems - and have been building

by foxbee 5y ago

Wow! Building this in 7 weeks is an incredible feat. I am the cofounder of Budibase - an open source alt to Retool, Mendix, Outsystems - and have been building it for around 2 years now. It's an incredible space and solves a burning problem for engineers, IT teams and business users. We're seeing major benefits of being open source, with the like of the NHS, Amazon, Deloitte and other major orgs choosing Budibase over proprietary alternatives, so I would say your decision to offer self-hosting was a good one. As much as we are probably seen as competitors, I wish you well and I am happy to share notes if you would like a call? https://github.com/Budibase/budibase https://github.com/Budibase/budibase

navaneethpk 5y ago
Thanks :) Sure, would love to talk. Please send me an email so that we can schedule a call. ( navaneeth@tooljet.io )
- foxbee 5y ago
  awesome. I'll ping you later
- alexkreidler 5y ago
  Would you two be able to share some take-aways from that conversation at some point? Maybe write up a short comparison of the projects as they are now and any differences in roadmap/vision that could be relevant. I always appreciate when OSS projects put in effort to understand and position themselves in relation to competitors (or potential collaborators). Also want to mention some open-source React visual drag and drop page editors that might be useful for inspiration or to eliminate possible duplicate work. There's OpenChakra [0] and Blocks [1], which are apps, and then there's craft.js, a library that aims to modularize "the building blocks of a page editor" and seems to have more emphasis on customizing the actual editor UI. Best of luck to you both! [0] https://github.com/premieroctet/openchakra https://github.com/premieroctet/openchakra [1] https://github.com/blocks/blocks https://github.com/blocks/blocks [2] https://github.com/prevwong/craft.js https://github.com/prevwong/craft.js
Artistry121 5y ago
Hey! I've been following Budibase too You're doing great too. I want to do implementations for projects like this and trainings around it. There is so much power in these tools its amazing. Can we talk too? andrew AT amescher.com
- foxbee 5y ago
  Hey - of course we can. I'll email you ASAP
mike_chuckles 5y ago
I've been playing with this for a little while now, really like the fact this takes over a lot of the management issues as well like handling email templating and all those nitty gritty bits that would otherwise be a pain! Looking forward to seeing where this goes over the next while!
- foxbee 5y ago
  Thanks for the feedback. Our latest release has received great feedback to date. There are a lot of IT professionals out there who don't want to deal with onboarding, adding/removing users and forgot password flows. I'd love to hear more about your use cases if you have the time: calendly.com dash budibase
  - mike_chuckles 5y ago
    I'll get in touch, thanks!
sdesol 5y ago
> Wow! Building this in 7 weeks is an incredible feat. Here is an analysis of Tooljet development in the last 90 days https://public-001.gitsense.com/insights/github/repos?q=window%3A90&r=github%3AToolJet%2FToolJet&v=repo https://public-001.gitsense.com/insights/github/repos?q=wind... I also did one for budibase as well https://public-001.gitsense.com/insights/github/repos?q=window%3A90&r=github%3ABudibase%2Fbudibase&v=repo https://public-001.gitsense.com/insights/github/repos?q=wind... Disclaimer: I'm the creator of GitSense
- hangtwenty 5y ago
  GitSense seems very useful. Constructive feedback about the UI: replace the (straggler?) serif font with the sans serif font you're using elsewhere on the page
  - sdesol 5y ago
    Thanks for the feedback. I'm the sole founder behind GitSense and to be honest, there are too many stragglers and things I should have done better. It's just that my time is pulled in so many different directions, with the business side of things occupying most of it right now. Thanks for commenting and yeah I do want to ensure everything is sans serif. I think I get a pass though, since I do have the beta label on the tool :-)
- foxbee 5y ago
  Awesome tool. Have you considered adding support/analytics around Github discussions?
  - sdesol 5y ago
    I actually want to index everything in the software development lifecycle, which will include GitHub discussions. The issue right now is I'm a sole founder and I can only implement so many features and I am looking for investors right now (ping me if you think you can help with introductions) to tackle what you suggested. I really do want to index everything from meetings, emails, time between design docs and so forth. Indexing GitHub discussions is very important since it takes effort to engage people and I want to best capture effort so that developers can say "1 line of code" took more effort than you can imagine.
swyx 5y ago
I have to say I was very impressed when I tried out Budibase and was able to create a CRUD app out of the box without looking at docs. You guys are easier to use than Retool — and self hostable/open source!! i have no idea what it's like to work on this problem for 2 years but really looking forward to see what you become. the youtube updates are super helpful btw pls keep that up
- foxbee 5y ago
  Appreciate your feedback. With the latest release, we're in a much better position to release quicker, and communicate better. We're still in beta, and yet to launch to Hackernews, PH, etc, so looking forward to that over the next few months.
moosebear847 5y ago
Would this be considered product thread hijacking? The 'compliment' could also be interpreted as a disguised subtle diss (7wk product vs 2yr one)..
- foxbee 5y ago
  It's not a diss. It is a compliment.

by foxbee 5y ago

navaneethpk 5y ago

Thanks :) Sure, would love to talk. Please send me an email so that we can schedule a call. ( navaneeth@tooljet.io )

foxbee 5y ago
awesome. I'll ping you later
alexkreidler 5y ago
Would you two be able to share some take-aways from that conversation at some point? Maybe write up a short comparison of the projects as they are now and any differences in roadmap/vision that could be relevant. I always appreciate when OSS projects put in effort to understand and position themselves in relation to competitors (or potential collaborators). Also want to mention some open-source React visual drag and drop page editors that might be useful for inspiration or to eliminate possible duplicate work. There's OpenChakra [0] and Blocks [1], which are apps, and then there's craft.js, a library that aims to modularize "the building blocks of a page editor" and seems to have more emphasis on customizing the actual editor UI. Best of luck to you both! [0] https://github.com/premieroctet/openchakra https://github.com/premieroctet/openchakra [1] https://github.com/blocks/blocks https://github.com/blocks/blocks [2] https://github.com/prevwong/craft.js https://github.com/prevwong/craft.js

Artistry121 5y ago

Hey! I've been following Budibase too You're doing great too. I want to do implementations for projects like this and trainings around it. There is so much power in these tools its amazing. Can we talk too? andrew AT amescher.com

foxbee 5y ago
Hey - of course we can. I'll email you ASAP

mike_chuckles 5y ago

I've been playing with this for a little while now, really like the fact this takes over a lot of the management issues as well like handling email templating and all those nitty gritty bits that would otherwise be a pain! Looking forward to seeing where this goes over the next while!

foxbee 5y ago
Thanks for the feedback. Our latest release has received great feedback to date. There are a lot of IT professionals out there who don't want to deal with onboarding, adding/removing users and forgot password flows. I'd love to hear more about your use cases if you have the time: calendly.com dash budibase
- mike_chuckles 5y ago
  I'll get in touch, thanks!

sdesol 5y ago

> Wow! Building this in 7 weeks is an incredible feat. Here is an analysis of Tooljet development in the last 90 days https://public-001.gitsense.com/insights/github/repos?q=window%3A90&r=github%3AToolJet%2FToolJet&v=repo https://public-001.gitsense.com/insights/github/repos?q=wind... I also did one for budibase as well https://public-001.gitsense.com/insights/github/repos?q=window%3A90&r=github%3ABudibase%2Fbudibase&v=repo https://public-001.gitsense.com/insights/github/repos?q=wind... Disclaimer: I'm the creator of GitSense

hangtwenty 5y ago
GitSense seems very useful. Constructive feedback about the UI: replace the (straggler?) serif font with the sans serif font you're using elsewhere on the page
- sdesol 5y ago
  Thanks for the feedback. I'm the sole founder behind GitSense and to be honest, there are too many stragglers and things I should have done better. It's just that my time is pulled in so many different directions, with the business side of things occupying most of it right now. Thanks for commenting and yeah I do want to ensure everything is sans serif. I think I get a pass though, since I do have the beta label on the tool :-)
foxbee 5y ago
Awesome tool. Have you considered adding support/analytics around Github discussions?
- sdesol 5y ago
  I actually want to index everything in the software development lifecycle, which will include GitHub discussions. The issue right now is I'm a sole founder and I can only implement so many features and I am looking for investors right now (ping me if you think you can help with introductions) to tackle what you suggested. I really do want to index everything from meetings, emails, time between design docs and so forth. Indexing GitHub discussions is very important since it takes effort to engage people and I want to best capture effort so that developers can say "1 line of code" took more effort than you can imagine.

swyx 5y ago

I have to say I was very impressed when I tried out Budibase and was able to create a CRUD app out of the box without looking at docs. You guys are easier to use than Retool — and self hostable/open source!! i have no idea what it's like to work on this problem for 2 years but really looking forward to see what you become. the youtube updates are super helpful btw pls keep that up

foxbee 5y ago
Appreciate your feedback. With the latest release, we're in a much better position to release quicker, and communicate better. We're still in beta, and yet to launch to Hackernews, PH, etc, so looking forward to that over the next few months.

moosebear847 5y ago

Would this be considered product thread hijacking? The 'compliment' could also be interpreted as a disguised subtle diss (7wk product vs 2yr one)..

foxbee 5y ago
It's not a diss. It is a compliment.