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This made me think of how many developers (who spend 10 hrs/day in front of their screen) choose Apples products. A linux machine might be better on performance

This made me think of how many developers (who spend 10 hrs/day in front of their screen) choose Apples products. A linux machine might be better on performance, maintainance, and all that, but Linux does not care about UX the way Apple does.

maest 5y ago
What about all the developers (who spend 10 hrs/day in front of their screen) that choose unix machines?
- iratewizard 5y ago
  You're not going to convince someone in the cult of Apple that their overpriced machine isn't worth the premium.
- randomdata 5y ago
  Are any of the unixes[1], other than macOS, commonly used as the system powering the screen? [1] https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/ https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/
- flerchin 5y ago
  The ux for the things I _actually do_ is way better on a linux machine.
2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
>Linux does not care about UX the way Apple does. What UX? A terminal? Linux is also only an operating system kernel.
emidln 5y ago
The only reason most devs I work with don't use a Linux laptop is that our corporate security, vpn, and auditing software isn't available for Linux. We settle for garbage-tier UX from docker + x11.app so we can do our jobs, not because Apple cares about anything.
DubiousPusher 5y ago
I actually don't know any engineers that use apple. A lot of graphic artists and designers for sure.
selfhoster11 5y ago
Lots of devs can't choose their platform. It's often a choice between Windows and Mac, if that. On a lot of the jobs I've worked, it was Windows-only. Give me a Linux machine instead and I will spend the day as happy as a genie who was permanently released from its bottle.
randomswede 5y ago
An actual VT4xx or VT5xx is the best terminal. An xterm window is a decent substitute (and if it comes with the optional Tek emulator, has some small extra whistles, but I think that has mostly been ripped out of all xterms by now). The MacOS terminal is... so-so. I mean, it's not horrible, but it is also not great. I am not convinced that Apple kit has the best UX (and I am in the same room as two macs that I alternate between).
- Casperin 5y ago
  I run i3/tmux/xterm wherever I can (also back when I was doing frontend). I definitely prefer this over anything Apple has been able to offer me in terms of user experience. My comment above was just a reflection of a connection I hadn't made before. :)
  - randomswede 5y ago
    I somewhere between like and REALLY like the laptops. Still not convinced by the touch bar on the work 16" MacBook Pro. But, it does seem kind of neat in many ways. At some point, I may experiment with its tex suggestions, for surrealism, if nothing else.

maest 5y ago

What about all the developers (who spend 10 hrs/day in front of their screen) that choose unix machines?

iratewizard 5y ago
You're not going to convince someone in the cult of Apple that their overpriced machine isn't worth the premium.
randomdata 5y ago
Are any of the unixes[1], other than macOS, commonly used as the system powering the screen? [1] https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/ https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/
flerchin 5y ago
The ux for the things I _actually do_ is way better on a linux machine.

2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago

>Linux does not care about UX the way Apple does. What UX? A terminal? Linux is also only an operating system kernel.

emidln 5y ago

The only reason most devs I work with don't use a Linux laptop is that our corporate security, vpn, and auditing software isn't available for Linux. We settle for garbage-tier UX from docker + x11.app so we can do our jobs, not because Apple cares about anything.

DubiousPusher 5y ago

I actually don't know any engineers that use apple. A lot of graphic artists and designers for sure.

selfhoster11 5y ago

Lots of devs can't choose their platform. It's often a choice between Windows and Mac, if that. On a lot of the jobs I've worked, it was Windows-only. Give me a Linux machine instead and I will spend the day as happy as a genie who was permanently released from its bottle.

randomswede 5y ago

An actual VT4xx or VT5xx is the best terminal. An xterm window is a decent substitute (and if it comes with the optional Tek emulator, has some small extra whistles, but I think that has mostly been ripped out of all xterms by now). The MacOS terminal is... so-so. I mean, it's not horrible, but it is also not great. I am not convinced that Apple kit has the best UX (and I am in the same room as two macs that I alternate between).

Casperin 5y ago
I run i3/tmux/xterm wherever I can (also back when I was doing frontend). I definitely prefer this over anything Apple has been able to offer me in terms of user experience. My comment above was just a reflection of a connection I hadn't made before. :)
- randomswede 5y ago
  I somewhere between like and REALLY like the laptops. Still not convinced by the touch bar on the work 16" MacBook Pro. But, it does seem kind of neat in many ways. At some point, I may experiment with its tex suggestions, for surrealism, if nothing else.