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There’s also a defective culture meme that believes software that hasn’t been updated in the past week is dying. This is a conceptual hack to avoid considering

There’s also a defective culture meme that believes software that hasn’t been updated in the past week is dying. This is a conceptual hack to avoid considering the state of the ecosystem.

gwd 5y ago
I think GP is trying to imply that there's so much churn in the Javascript ecosystem that any project which isn't updated will actually stop working in a relatively short amount of time.
- Igelau 5y ago
  Pretty sure "Hello World" develops a major security vulnerability in a dependency you didn't know about if you go two weeks without looking at it.
slver 5y ago
It's not a defective culture meme, because the modern ecosystem is moving fast. We're using to thinking about digital creations as if they're forever. This is incorrect. Software without a platform doesn't run. Platforms are always changing, and sometimes platforms die and get replaced with other ones. Think of software like a living being, not like a statue etched in stone (although even statues etched in stone degrade).
- mattgreenrocks 5y ago
  You could almost say it was a Cambrian explosion of sorts? It’s 2012 all over again: “churn makes things better! BTW, what should we be using this week?”
  - scruffyherder 5y ago
    I’d say it’s forever 1997. Netscape had a server side JavaScript platform in 1997. People still build 3 tier apps, and web farms. It’s eternal 1997.
    - slver 5y ago
      3 tiers are older than computers. As for JS, most things that becomes popular have been around for decades, but without being popular. Society is slow as f**.
NoGravitas 5y ago
It's been a big adjustment to me switching all my recreational programming over to Common Lisp. In the CL community, it's not uncommon for a widely used library to not have been updated in 5-10 years. In any other language community, that would mean unmaintained, bitrotted, unusable. In the CL community, it usually means it's finished, and doesn't need any more changes.

There’s also a defective culture meme that believes software that hasn’t been updated in the past week is dying. This is a conceptual hack to avoid considering the state of the ecosystem.

gwd 5y ago

I think GP is trying to imply that there's so much churn in the Javascript ecosystem that any project which isn't updated will actually stop working in a relatively short amount of time.

Igelau 5y ago
Pretty sure "Hello World" develops a major security vulnerability in a dependency you didn't know about if you go two weeks without looking at it.

slver 5y ago

It's not a defective culture meme, because the modern ecosystem is moving fast. We're using to thinking about digital creations as if they're forever. This is incorrect. Software without a platform doesn't run. Platforms are always changing, and sometimes platforms die and get replaced with other ones. Think of software like a living being, not like a statue etched in stone (although even statues etched in stone degrade).

mattgreenrocks 5y ago
You could almost say it was a Cambrian explosion of sorts? It’s 2012 all over again: “churn makes things better! BTW, what should we be using this week?”
- scruffyherder 5y ago
  I’d say it’s forever 1997. Netscape had a server side JavaScript platform in 1997. People still build 3 tier apps, and web farms. It’s eternal 1997.
  - slver 5y ago
    3 tiers are older than computers. As for JS, most things that becomes popular have been around for decades, but without being popular. Society is slow as f**.

NoGravitas 5y ago

It's been a big adjustment to me switching all my recreational programming over to Common Lisp. In the CL community, it's not uncommon for a widely used library to not have been updated in 5-10 years. In any other language community, that would mean unmaintained, bitrotted, unusable. In the CL community, it usually means it's finished, and doesn't need any more changes.