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On the other hand the incentive for people to innovate and make it accessible to anyone is often money. The criticism of capitalism is warranted, however the su

On the other hand the incentive for people to innovate and make it accessible to anyone is often money. The criticism of capitalism is warranted, however the supposedly bad capitalist IP system is also the reason for innovation and cooperation.

CraigJPerry 5y ago
Most of the interesting innovations happen on publicly funded research. Whether it’s your RNA vaccine https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/darpa-awards-moderna-therapeutics-grant-25-million-develop/ https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-d... or your phones touch screen, or your siri voice assistant or your uber gps taxi
- WalterBright 5y ago
  > Most of the interesting innovations happen on publicly funded research Excluding airplanes, jet engines, rockets, transistors, git, etc.
  - devdas 5y ago
    Rockets were publicly funded research. A lot of airplane research was publicly funded.
    - WalterBright 5y ago
      Goddard was not publicly funded. The Langley prototype fell into the Potomac like a sack of wet cement, and cost 20 times in government funding what the Wrights spent on their entire R+D program. Langley clearly had not solved any of the problems necessary for controlled, powered flight.
louis___ 5y ago
This rethoric has been proven false in the software development ecosystem. Nowadays almost all new programming languages are open-source, and *nix OS softwares have won the cultural battle over Windows in the devops community. > the supposedly bad capitalist IP system is also the reason for innovation and cooperation For me this is as much a myth as the good old "the wealth trickles down from the rich to the poor"
- vimacs2 5y ago
  Not only is it a myth but also incredibly arrogant, as if the ten thousand years of advancements and innovation by humanity since the dawn of civilisation prior to the development of capitalism in Italian city states never happened.
  - WalterBright 5y ago
    The hockey stick innovation curve started at the time of the industrial revolution, thanks to free markets.
    - vimacs2 5y ago
      Or it could have also been due to the whole having access to orders of magnitude more mechanical power on tap, assembly line production allowing for rapid prototyping, and industrialisation of agriculture leading to a population boom.
      - WalterBright 5y ago
        Which happened in free market countries, not unfree ones. P.S. the assembly line (invented in a free market country) is not about rapid prototyping. Prototypes are not built on an assembly line.
        vimacs2 5y ago
        Russia and China or do those not count?
        WalterBright 5y ago
        Russia and China did not industrialize until well over a century later. Or are you saying Russia and China build prototypes on an assembly line? I'll need a reference for that!
- antibuddy 5y ago

CraigJPerry 5y ago

Most of the interesting innovations happen on publicly funded research. Whether it’s your RNA vaccine https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/darpa-awards-moderna-therapeutics-grant-25-million-develop/ https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-d... or your phones touch screen, or your siri voice assistant or your uber gps taxi

WalterBright 5y ago
> Most of the interesting innovations happen on publicly funded research Excluding airplanes, jet engines, rockets, transistors, git, etc.
- devdas 5y ago
  Rockets were publicly funded research. A lot of airplane research was publicly funded.
  - WalterBright 5y ago
    Goddard was not publicly funded. The Langley prototype fell into the Potomac like a sack of wet cement, and cost 20 times in government funding what the Wrights spent on their entire R+D program. Langley clearly had not solved any of the problems necessary for controlled, powered flight.

louis___ 5y ago

This rethoric has been proven false in the software development ecosystem. Nowadays almost all new programming languages are open-source, and *nix OS softwares have won the cultural battle over Windows in the devops community. > the supposedly bad capitalist IP system is also the reason for innovation and cooperation For me this is as much a myth as the good old "the wealth trickles down from the rich to the poor"

vimacs2 5y ago
Not only is it a myth but also incredibly arrogant, as if the ten thousand years of advancements and innovation by humanity since the dawn of civilisation prior to the development of capitalism in Italian city states never happened.
- WalterBright 5y ago
  The hockey stick innovation curve started at the time of the industrial revolution, thanks to free markets.
  - vimacs2 5y ago
    Or it could have also been due to the whole having access to orders of magnitude more mechanical power on tap, assembly line production allowing for rapid prototyping, and industrialisation of agriculture leading to a population boom.
    - WalterBright 5y ago
      Which happened in free market countries, not unfree ones. P.S. the assembly line (invented in a free market country) is not about rapid prototyping. Prototypes are not built on an assembly line.
      - vimacs2 5y ago
        Russia and China or do those not count?
        WalterBright 5y ago
        Russia and China did not industrialize until well over a century later. Or are you saying Russia and China build prototypes on an assembly line? I'll need a reference for that!
antibuddy 5y ago