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Damn, I have a 12 disk RAID-Z2 with that, almost all of them failed in about 1~2 years, luckily because of Z2, I didn't lose any data. I'll never buy seagate a

by Koiwai 5y ago

Damn, I have a 12 disk RAID-Z2 with that, almost all of them failed in about 1~2 years, luckily because of Z2, I didn't lose any data. I'll never buy seagate again.

geocrasher 5y ago
I bought a 500GB WD Green drive in 2010, and in 2011 I needed a second 500GB disk in a hurry. I went to a local supplier and all I could get was a Seagate 500GB disk. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers. I retired them both earlier this year, replacing them with a single 2TB WD Blue drive to augment my SSD. They are both still fully functional, not so much as a SMART error. I chalk it up to two things: The first is an extremely low number of power cycles. The second is that I never moved the computer thy were in until after they'd finished spinning down.
- flyinghamster 5y ago
  I also generally tend to keep drives powered up, and they indeed tend to live long. Still, I have to be on alert for failing drives. I had four of the WD30EFRX together in a 2x2 pool (roughly equivalent to RAID10). One day, one of them began showing checksum errors after a scrub, and I replaced it with a Toshiba DT01ACA300. Once the bad drive was out of the pool, I ran a full self-test on it, which it failed. I did at least get five years of service out of it, but in any case, it's time for me to think about some newer hardware. For my next NAS, I'm kind of leaning towards using 2x8TB mirrored, with a third drive to be rotated into the mirror, splitting off the rotated-out drive as an offline backup.
- Koiwai 5y ago
  Mine was in a home NAS server, almost never powered down, or moved, they die nonetheless, the replacement I bought, mostly TOSHIBA models, still works at this very moment, NONE of them failed.
dheera 5y ago
Back in the day I used IBM drives and they were super reliable. Too bad they stopped making hard drives and all the Maxtors, Seagates, Hitachis, and WDs came along with all their crap.
- geocrasher 5y ago
  In the early to mid 90's, Maxtor was my go-to hard drive for any build. They went downhill after that, sadly.
  - flyinghamster 5y ago
    Back in those days, Maxtor was on my good list and WD was definitely not. At work, we had to deal with prematurely failed WDs on our desktops all too often. It took a very long time before I'd consider a WD drive again, and then in the 2000s I finally tried them again. I've been mostly happy, but now I look kind of side-eyed at them after WD Red SMR fiasco. I was none too pleased when Seagate bought out Maxtor and turned it into their lowball brand.
- ggm 5y ago
  Hitachi bought the IBM plant. IIRC they just took over the shop as-is
vasac 5y ago
I brought 4 WD Green 2TB disks 7-8 years ago. All failed in the next few years because their firmware was parking the heads after 8 seconds of inactivity. And they were rated for 300.000 cycles so at the time that become common knowledge I already had one failed disk and 3 others with way more cycles than it should. Sadly, flashing new firmware didn't stop the rest from failing.

by Koiwai 5y ago

Damn, I have a 12 disk RAID-Z2 with that, almost all of them failed in about 1~2 years, luckily because of Z2, I didn't lose any data. I'll never buy seagate again.

geocrasher 5y ago

I bought a 500GB WD Green drive in 2010, and in 2011 I needed a second 500GB disk in a hurry. I went to a local supplier and all I could get was a Seagate 500GB disk. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers. I retired them both earlier this year, replacing them with a single 2TB WD Blue drive to augment my SSD. They are both still fully functional, not so much as a SMART error. I chalk it up to two things: The first is an extremely low number of power cycles. The second is that I never moved the computer thy were in until after they'd finished spinning down.

flyinghamster 5y ago
I also generally tend to keep drives powered up, and they indeed tend to live long. Still, I have to be on alert for failing drives. I had four of the WD30EFRX together in a 2x2 pool (roughly equivalent to RAID10). One day, one of them began showing checksum errors after a scrub, and I replaced it with a Toshiba DT01ACA300. Once the bad drive was out of the pool, I ran a full self-test on it, which it failed. I did at least get five years of service out of it, but in any case, it's time for me to think about some newer hardware. For my next NAS, I'm kind of leaning towards using 2x8TB mirrored, with a third drive to be rotated into the mirror, splitting off the rotated-out drive as an offline backup.
Koiwai 5y ago
Mine was in a home NAS server, almost never powered down, or moved, they die nonetheless, the replacement I bought, mostly TOSHIBA models, still works at this very moment, NONE of them failed.

dheera 5y ago

Back in the day I used IBM drives and they were super reliable. Too bad they stopped making hard drives and all the Maxtors, Seagates, Hitachis, and WDs came along with all their crap.

geocrasher 5y ago
In the early to mid 90's, Maxtor was my go-to hard drive for any build. They went downhill after that, sadly.
- flyinghamster 5y ago
  Back in those days, Maxtor was on my good list and WD was definitely not. At work, we had to deal with prematurely failed WDs on our desktops all too often. It took a very long time before I'd consider a WD drive again, and then in the 2000s I finally tried them again. I've been mostly happy, but now I look kind of side-eyed at them after WD Red SMR fiasco. I was none too pleased when Seagate bought out Maxtor and turned it into their lowball brand.
ggm 5y ago
Hitachi bought the IBM plant. IIRC they just took over the shop as-is

vasac 5y ago

I brought 4 WD Green 2TB disks 7-8 years ago. All failed in the next few years because their firmware was parking the heads after 8 seconds of inactivity. And they were rated for 300.000 cycles so at the time that become common knowledge I already had one failed disk and 3 others with way more cycles than it should. Sadly, flashing new firmware didn't stop the rest from failing.