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A schedule like that isn't about enslaving workers. Its cross-training them and ensuring that nobody gets preferential treatment.

lghh 5y ago
Ah, so instead of risking anyone having a decent schedule they ruin everyone’s schedule. Got it.
- refurb 5y ago
  What they need is a union who will give the best shifts to the most senior and then give the terrible shifts to the newbies!
MisterBastahrd 5y ago
A schedule like that is EXACTLY about enslaving workers. They disallow consecutive days off so that no employees are going to have a situation where they feel comfortable leaving town on a trip, so that they will always be around the store. They screw with employee hours so that employees are unable to hold a comparable second job.
- slenk 5y ago
  Why would no employees feel comfortable leaving town? Schedule time off if you need to leave town. It's what the majority of workers have to do.
  - trainsplanes 5y ago
    Outside the US, in first world nations at least, it's expected that you get consecutive days off and you don't need to beg your boss for permission to leave town each week. I've never had to schedule a leave from town and don't know anybody who did, because it's plainly obvious that our weekends are our own. Another problem is companies that intentionally book non-consecutive days off for their workers are also going to do everything they can to discourage workers from taking time off when they want to.
    - slenk 5y ago
      I don't think it's right what employers do, but with at-will employment the norm in the US, your employer ends up holding a lot of power. I also assumed as a part-time worker I would be at the will of the employer even more; I myself have never done part-time work like that
    - refurb 5y ago
      I guess Canada isn’t a first world nation. :’(
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    In those kinds of jobs you often can't. Taking an inconvenient day off may cost you your job.
    - slenk 5y ago
      I admit I haven't worked a job like that so I don't have any valuable personal experience.
  - lovich 5y ago
    >Schedule time off You lost me there. When I worked shit retail jobs I was actually laughed at when I tried to schedule 3 days off a few months in advance. Hell my first job was at a place where they would not tell you your schedule over the phone or over the internet and they would change your schedule the night before they wanted you there. Unless you were willing to drive to the store every day, even on your day off, you would never know about new shifts you had assigned and would subsequently be a no call no show. The managers used this so they always had a safe reason to fire someone. When you did something they didn't like but was protected by store policy or legality, they would just fire you next time you missed one of these sudden shift changes.
  - MisterBastahrd 5y ago
    These employees typically get ONE week of paid time off after a YEAR'S worth of service. Their transportation is usually unreliable because they can't afford to purchase a new car or maintain the vehicle.

lghh 5y ago

Ah, so instead of risking anyone having a decent schedule they ruin everyone’s schedule. Got it.

refurb 5y ago
What they need is a union who will give the best shifts to the most senior and then give the terrible shifts to the newbies!

MisterBastahrd 5y ago

A schedule like that is EXACTLY about enslaving workers. They disallow consecutive days off so that no employees are going to have a situation where they feel comfortable leaving town on a trip, so that they will always be around the store. They screw with employee hours so that employees are unable to hold a comparable second job.

slenk 5y ago
Why would no employees feel comfortable leaving town? Schedule time off if you need to leave town. It's what the majority of workers have to do.
- trainsplanes 5y ago
  Outside the US, in first world nations at least, it's expected that you get consecutive days off and you don't need to beg your boss for permission to leave town each week. I've never had to schedule a leave from town and don't know anybody who did, because it's plainly obvious that our weekends are our own. Another problem is companies that intentionally book non-consecutive days off for their workers are also going to do everything they can to discourage workers from taking time off when they want to.
  - slenk 5y ago
    I don't think it's right what employers do, but with at-will employment the norm in the US, your employer ends up holding a lot of power. I also assumed as a part-time worker I would be at the will of the employer even more; I myself have never done part-time work like that
  - refurb 5y ago
    I guess Canada isn’t a first world nation. :’(
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  In those kinds of jobs you often can't. Taking an inconvenient day off may cost you your job.
  - slenk 5y ago
    I admit I haven't worked a job like that so I don't have any valuable personal experience.
- lovich 5y ago
  >Schedule time off You lost me there. When I worked shit retail jobs I was actually laughed at when I tried to schedule 3 days off a few months in advance. Hell my first job was at a place where they would not tell you your schedule over the phone or over the internet and they would change your schedule the night before they wanted you there. Unless you were willing to drive to the store every day, even on your day off, you would never know about new shifts you had assigned and would subsequently be a no call no show. The managers used this so they always had a safe reason to fire someone. When you did something they didn't like but was protected by store policy or legality, they would just fire you next time you missed one of these sudden shift changes.
- MisterBastahrd 5y ago
  These employees typically get ONE week of paid time off after a YEAR'S worth of service. Their transportation is usually unreliable because they can't afford to purchase a new car or maintain the vehicle.