5 ms·

A distinction without a difference.

lmm 5y ago
No, it's a very real difference. Do I think this is an important part of who I am, or a random happenstance? If I were attracted to different people, would that make me a different person, in an important way? Realising/deciding that it wasn't actually important to me what sexuality people perceived me as eliminated a lot of stress and conflict, personally.
- approxim8ion 5y ago
  > personally. And that is fine, but it doesn't mean it should be prescribed to everyone.
  - lmm 5y ago
    People recommend practices that worked for them. If other people have actually tried (rather than theorising) and found this didn't work for them then of course I'd be interested in hearing about that as well.
    - eyelidlessness 5y ago
      This specific “practice” was expressed in response to someone (me) who expressed having tried it, and found it unhelpful and hurtful. It’s not like hiding one’s queerness is a new revelation, it’s commonly associated with being closeted (often out of fear and/or self repression) and with abuse (conversion therapy).
      - lmm 5y ago
        Hiding isn't what's being suggested here. I'm very open about who I'm attracted to and what I'm doing. But I don't define myself by it.
        eyelidlessness 5y ago
        I can’t speak for you and wouldn’t dare. I can only say that when I said verbatim these exact words what I was describing was “passing”. And in similar terms with neurodivergence, “masking”. I wasn’t accepting myself, I was accepting that I had a certain access and aptitude to be someone else for some social purposes. And even then, not really. Just kinda sorta.
- TchoBeer 5y ago
  >important This term is totally nebulous. What it means to be the "same person but with different features" or a "different person" is just pure meaningless semantics.
  - lmm 5y ago
    Meaning is what we make it. If anything is meaningful then one must start with one's own experiences (and if they only mean something to oneself, well, that's fine too).
int3 5y ago
Did you even read PG's article? It explains the consequences of identification.

lmm 5y ago

No, it's a very real difference. Do I think this is an important part of who I am, or a random happenstance? If I were attracted to different people, would that make me a different person, in an important way? Realising/deciding that it wasn't actually important to me what sexuality people perceived me as eliminated a lot of stress and conflict, personally.

approxim8ion 5y ago
> personally. And that is fine, but it doesn't mean it should be prescribed to everyone.
- lmm 5y ago
  People recommend practices that worked for them. If other people have actually tried (rather than theorising) and found this didn't work for them then of course I'd be interested in hearing about that as well.
  - eyelidlessness 5y ago
    This specific “practice” was expressed in response to someone (me) who expressed having tried it, and found it unhelpful and hurtful. It’s not like hiding one’s queerness is a new revelation, it’s commonly associated with being closeted (often out of fear and/or self repression) and with abuse (conversion therapy).
    - lmm 5y ago
      Hiding isn't what's being suggested here. I'm very open about who I'm attracted to and what I'm doing. But I don't define myself by it.
      - eyelidlessness 5y ago
        I can’t speak for you and wouldn’t dare. I can only say that when I said verbatim these exact words what I was describing was “passing”. And in similar terms with neurodivergence, “masking”. I wasn’t accepting myself, I was accepting that I had a certain access and aptitude to be someone else for some social purposes. And even then, not really. Just kinda sorta.
TchoBeer 5y ago
>important This term is totally nebulous. What it means to be the "same person but with different features" or a "different person" is just pure meaningless semantics.
- lmm 5y ago
  Meaning is what we make it. If anything is meaningful then one must start with one's own experiences (and if they only mean something to oneself, well, that's fine too).

int3 5y ago

Did you even read PG's article? It explains the consequences of identification.