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After you sink the boat you can pick the crew up and give them free tickets to Disney Land or throw them in jail it doesn't matter when it comes to dissuading i

After you sink the boat you can pick the crew up and give them free tickets to Disney Land or throw them in jail it doesn't matter when it comes to dissuading illegal fishing. The point is to make the expected ROI of trespassing in other nations' territorial waters negative. The crew is cheap and easy to replace relative to the boat. So you have to make the boat go away (sink it or impound it) to make the corporate owner back on land feel the heat. Imprison them and give them back to their home country ASAP is probably the right way to handle the crew.

at_a_remove 5y ago
And then the pirate, slave or not, plays the "Claim Asylum" card from his deck and the costs are back in your court.
- fxtentacle 5y ago
  That's why you recoup your money from the flag carrier country. It would also have the nice side effect of dissuading countries to lend their flag to shady companies all over the world.
  - at_a_remove 5y ago
    There's the large assumption that the flag carrier country will pay. Realistically, once this becomes a strategem, and a known one, anyone with a boat can enter your waters, hoist the jolly roger, then say "Yeah, take me into asylum." And poof, your immigration procedures evaporate.
    - wavefunction 5y ago
      You should do some reading up on what is involved in applying for and receiving asylum in the US. Your post indicates an inaccurate understanding of what is involved and required for an asylum seeker to receive legal asylum.
      - at_a_remove 5y ago
        I assume it is like immigration. In one sense, it is a long legal process with a variety of steps to ensure this person is serious. But in a more practical sense, it just involves crossing a border and having the phase "illegal immigrant" removed from the vocabulary.
  - fullstop 5y ago
    > That's why you recoup your money from the flag carrier country. Aren't the vast majority of these actually "flags of convenience" and registered in Panama?

at_a_remove 5y ago

And then the pirate, slave or not, plays the "Claim Asylum" card from his deck and the costs are back in your court.

fxtentacle 5y ago
That's why you recoup your money from the flag carrier country. It would also have the nice side effect of dissuading countries to lend their flag to shady companies all over the world.
- at_a_remove 5y ago
  There's the large assumption that the flag carrier country will pay. Realistically, once this becomes a strategem, and a known one, anyone with a boat can enter your waters, hoist the jolly roger, then say "Yeah, take me into asylum." And poof, your immigration procedures evaporate.
  - wavefunction 5y ago
    You should do some reading up on what is involved in applying for and receiving asylum in the US. Your post indicates an inaccurate understanding of what is involved and required for an asylum seeker to receive legal asylum.
    - at_a_remove 5y ago
      I assume it is like immigration. In one sense, it is a long legal process with a variety of steps to ensure this person is serious. But in a more practical sense, it just involves crossing a border and having the phase "illegal immigrant" removed from the vocabulary.
- fullstop 5y ago
  > That's why you recoup your money from the flag carrier country. Aren't the vast majority of these actually "flags of convenience" and registered in Panama?