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> This said, European police generally gets away with a degree of prevarication that North Americans would find unconceivable. Not to be inflammatory, but Nort

> This said, European police generally gets away with a degree of prevarication that North Americans would find unconceivable. Not to be inflammatory, but North American police generally gets away with a degree of murder that Europeans find inconceivable.

hallway_monitor 5y ago
Stop the straw man please. No one is going around killing citizens. Something like nine unarmed people per year are killed by US police out of 10 million interactions.
- StavrosK 5y ago
  Nice statistic, but killings by police are 28 per million in the states versus 1.3 in Germany/France: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_by_country https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enfo...
  - skocznymroczny 5y ago
    That's total deaths caused by police. It would obviously be higher in the US because the criminals are more likely to have and use guns, policemen in the US just can't afford the peaceful approaches most policemen in Europe can. That doesn't mean they get away with more.
- zimpenfish 5y ago
  From 2015 to 2020Q1, 753 unarmed people were killed by US police for an average of about 145/year or approximately one every 60 hours / 2.5 days. Key quote: "The victims were unarmed in 1 in 6 (753;16%) fatal shootings." https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/fatal-police-shootings-of-unarmed-black-people-in-us-more-than-3-times-as-high-as-in-whites/ https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/fatal-police-shootings-... For balance, this 2018 gives lower numbers - hovering around 60ish per year. Although that is still significantly higher than 9. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/fatal-police-shootings-of-unarmed-people-have-significantly-declined-experts-say/2018/05/03/d5eab374-4349-11e8-8569-26fda6b404c7_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/fatal-police-s...

hallway_monitor 5y ago

Stop the straw man please. No one is going around killing citizens. Something like nine unarmed people per year are killed by US police out of 10 million interactions.

StavrosK 5y ago
Nice statistic, but killings by police are 28 per million in the states versus 1.3 in Germany/France: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_by_country https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enfo...
- skocznymroczny 5y ago
  That's total deaths caused by police. It would obviously be higher in the US because the criminals are more likely to have and use guns, policemen in the US just can't afford the peaceful approaches most policemen in Europe can. That doesn't mean they get away with more.
zimpenfish 5y ago
From 2015 to 2020Q1, 753 unarmed people were killed by US police for an average of about 145/year or approximately one every 60 hours / 2.5 days. Key quote: "The victims were unarmed in 1 in 6 (753;16%) fatal shootings." https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/fatal-police-shootings-of-unarmed-black-people-in-us-more-than-3-times-as-high-as-in-whites/ https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/fatal-police-shootings-... For balance, this 2018 gives lower numbers - hovering around 60ish per year. Although that is still significantly higher than 9. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/fatal-police-shootings-of-unarmed-people-have-significantly-declined-experts-say/2018/05/03/d5eab374-4349-11e8-8569-26fda6b404c7_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/fatal-police-s...