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CTRL+F "microdata": no result. Yeah, I thought so too... The Semantic web has failed. ARIA tags are important for accessibility though, but semantic HTML has b

CTRL+F "microdata": no result. Yeah, I thought so too... The Semantic web has failed. ARIA tags are important for accessibility though, but semantic HTML has been irrelevant for a decade, I haven't seen a single successful product based on that or a single use case that yielded something interesting SEO wise.

eyelidlessness 5y ago
Oddly, I had to use microdata to fix reader mode on my site recently.
extra88 5y ago
Using semantic HTML in web authoring is not the same as the concept of the “semantic web” [0]. The article makes it clear what it is about and it’s not about the goals of the semantic web. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web
chipotle_coyote 5y ago
The article, and the comments on the article here, and even the ARIA documentation itself as quoted in comments explain why semantic HTML is important to accessibility. "Yeah, but it doesn't yield something interesting SEO-wise" leads us to make web sites that are trash fires, and not just from an accessibility standpoint.
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crazygringo 5y ago
It's very unfortunate that the term "semantic" is overloaded -- the "semantic" web you're referring to which I agree was basically a total failure, but also "semantic" HTML which is used for accessibility, essentially as a shortcut for ARIA tags. I think it's led to a lot of confusion, especially since it's often not clear which purpose is being referred to in a context.
- worik 5y ago
  "semantic" is not overloaded in this case. It has the same meaning in both cases
ctoth 5y ago
Semantic HTML != ARIA tags. Also, isn't the semantic web the reason that we get things like link previews with titles and content and images and... Considering [0] is a SEO website, and it was in the top three for my search for og:title I'd say the problem is rather that SEO infected the whole thing, not that it's not useful to SEO. [0]: https://seosetups.com/open-graph/ https://seosetups.com/open-graph/

eyelidlessness 5y ago

Oddly, I had to use microdata to fix reader mode on my site recently.

extra88 5y ago

Using semantic HTML in web authoring is not the same as the concept of the “semantic web” [0]. The article makes it clear what it is about and it’s not about the goals of the semantic web. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web

chipotle_coyote 5y ago

The article, and the comments on the article here, and even the ARIA documentation itself as quoted in comments explain why semantic HTML is important to accessibility. "Yeah, but it doesn't yield something interesting SEO-wise" leads us to make web sites that are trash fires, and not just from an accessibility standpoint.

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crazygringo 5y ago

It's very unfortunate that the term "semantic" is overloaded -- the "semantic" web you're referring to which I agree was basically a total failure, but also "semantic" HTML which is used for accessibility, essentially as a shortcut for ARIA tags. I think it's led to a lot of confusion, especially since it's often not clear which purpose is being referred to in a context.

worik 5y ago
"semantic" is not overloaded in this case. It has the same meaning in both cases

ctoth 5y ago

Semantic HTML != ARIA tags. Also, isn't the semantic web the reason that we get things like link previews with titles and content and images and... Considering [0] is a SEO website, and it was in the top three for my search for og:title I'd say the problem is rather that SEO infected the whole thing, not that it's not useful to SEO. [0]: https://seosetups.com/open-graph/ https://seosetups.com/open-graph/