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> I sometimes hate humanity as a species All of it? I mean hate towards globalization that helped China and other hegemonic dictators with no regards for rule

> I sometimes hate humanity as a species All of it? I mean hate towards globalization that helped China and other hegemonic dictators with no regards for rule of law continue to do what it does is one thing. Blatant hate for humanity is another.

jmartrican 5y ago
Humanity has always lead to other, at possibly every point in history.
- Jcowell 5y ago
  Yes but all of humanity? All? It’s like looking at murder rates and hating Humanity because it murders despite the majority of the global population having not even touch a Gun before.
eric__cartman 5y ago
Well that statement may have been a little too aggressive and come off the wrong way. I was quite pissed when wrote that comment. I believe humans can do great things, we really do. I wouldn't have chosen to be born as any other living thing (not that I had a choice anyways lol). It's just the selfishness of some people that results in massive damages that ruins it for the rest of us. That said we have to realize as a whole that our current way of living is not sustainable and will result is us screwing over future generations that will have to live in an incredibly polluted, and ecologically damaged planet. We have to use our intellect and capacity of achieving anything we put our mind towards and take real, meaningful steps to solve this problem. Before it's too late. There are also many other important global issues that need our attention as a society but that's past the scope of this comment.
- kortilla 5y ago
  > That said we have to realize as a whole that our current way of living is not sustainable and will result is us screwing over future generations that will have to live in an incredibly polluted, and ecologically damaged planet. We have to use our intellect and capacity of achieving anything we put our mind towards and take real, meaningful steps to solve this problem. Before it's too late. This is what humans have been doing for a long time. The problems were just much more acute for the next generations. Until very recently, most humans were born into scenarios without good shelter, solid water supplies, solid food supplies, general safety, or any medical protection from trivial things like infection let alone anything more complicated. What’s happening here is this poor Chinese fisherman are still dealing with the acute issues (feeding existing family, etc) so the trade of returning home empty handed vs breaking boundaries is too difficult for them to come out on the right side of.
ajmurmann 5y ago
It's not only globalization though. It's mankind's inability to both understand and prioritize long term consequences and to govern the commons properly. The same thing manifests on local levels as well.
- creato 5y ago
  Blaming this on inability to understand is a mistake. Many people, perhaps even most, just don't care that they are doing something collectively long term destructive. In the short term, they are benefiting, and they can move on to the next country incapable of defending its territory when they are done with Argentina's fish.

jmartrican 5y ago

Humanity has always lead to other, at possibly every point in history.

Jcowell 5y ago
Yes but all of humanity? All? It’s like looking at murder rates and hating Humanity because it murders despite the majority of the global population having not even touch a Gun before.

eric__cartman 5y ago

Well that statement may have been a little too aggressive and come off the wrong way. I was quite pissed when wrote that comment. I believe humans can do great things, we really do. I wouldn't have chosen to be born as any other living thing (not that I had a choice anyways lol). It's just the selfishness of some people that results in massive damages that ruins it for the rest of us. That said we have to realize as a whole that our current way of living is not sustainable and will result is us screwing over future generations that will have to live in an incredibly polluted, and ecologically damaged planet. We have to use our intellect and capacity of achieving anything we put our mind towards and take real, meaningful steps to solve this problem. Before it's too late. There are also many other important global issues that need our attention as a society but that's past the scope of this comment.

kortilla 5y ago
> That said we have to realize as a whole that our current way of living is not sustainable and will result is us screwing over future generations that will have to live in an incredibly polluted, and ecologically damaged planet. We have to use our intellect and capacity of achieving anything we put our mind towards and take real, meaningful steps to solve this problem. Before it's too late. This is what humans have been doing for a long time. The problems were just much more acute for the next generations. Until very recently, most humans were born into scenarios without good shelter, solid water supplies, solid food supplies, general safety, or any medical protection from trivial things like infection let alone anything more complicated. What’s happening here is this poor Chinese fisherman are still dealing with the acute issues (feeding existing family, etc) so the trade of returning home empty handed vs breaking boundaries is too difficult for them to come out on the right side of.

ajmurmann 5y ago

It's not only globalization though. It's mankind's inability to both understand and prioritize long term consequences and to govern the commons properly. The same thing manifests on local levels as well.

creato 5y ago
Blaming this on inability to understand is a mistake. Many people, perhaps even most, just don't care that they are doing something collectively long term destructive. In the short term, they are benefiting, and they can move on to the next country incapable of defending its territory when they are done with Argentina's fish.