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Fishing is really barbaric. It's fairly bloodless since we suffocate all the creatures but it's like going to Yosemite and just cutting the throats open of the

• ptaipale 5y ago
  No, at least I don't suffocate fish that I catch. I stun and kill.
  • kristopolous 5y ago
    Also awful. It's not about an individual fish, many people don't understand this. It's about disruption of an ecosystem that material reality demonstrates we still very poorly understand. There's exactly zero evidence that anyone other than very specific tribes of indigenous peoples who sustained thousands of years, that humans writ large know how to maintain ecosystems. All evidence points to our current practices having massive deleterious consequences and that we are already a few decades into a mass extinction event. If that's not enough evidence to harbor every ship (or at least 95%) until we figure out what the fuck we're doing, there's no hope. That's the truly repulsive aspects of barbarism, it's about the combination of ignorance and indifference as to the consequences of our actions