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Here in Melbourne Australia, lots is being done to remove right turns (we drive on the left here) at the busiest intersections. Several "P turns" [1,2] have be
by tomhoward 5y ago
Here in Melbourne Australia, lots is being done to remove right turns (we drive on the left here) at the busiest intersections.
Several "P turns" [1,2] have been introduced in the most congested areas, in which you need to go straight through the intersection, then wait to do a U-turn at a designated place, then turn left into the road you wanted to turn right into (or vice versa if you're coming from the other direction).
And because we have trams (streetcars), many intersections with trams have long had "hook turns" [3], signed as "right turn from left only", in which to turn right you must first pull over to the left to clear the lanes in your direction, wait for the lights to turn green in the road you're entering, then turn right. (This is not exactly eliminating right turns but it's a much safer and less disruptive way of doing them).
It all works well when you understand it, but it confuses the hell out of visitors.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIREzujqOUg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIREzujqOUg
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPe8NtwEqeI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPe8NtwEqeI
[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh92LirlCf8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh92LirlCf8
- burlesona 5y agoThanks for sharing. Wow, that hook turn thing is weird! I can see how it works well once you get used to it, though.
- tvphan 5y agoIf you ride a bike and have to make a turn, it’s a similar concept!
- gertlex 5y agoSounds similar to a "Michigan Left"... which I've known of since I was a kid, though I haven't seen any new ones built that I know of (though, I no longer am in Michigan...) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_left https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_left
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y agoAlso common in several parts of NJ, notably driving up US1 between Phila and NYC.
- AtlasBarfed 5y agoNew Jersey does jughandles where you do a right turn after the intersection and then a mini-cloverleaf. Detroit/Michigan go through the intersection in the left lane, u-turn after the intersection, then turn right at the light. Have lived substantial years in both states. New Jersey has the driver drive through the same intersection twice. Michigan has three intersections: the first one you drive through, the second for the u-turn and the third for the right turn, although the u-turn and right turn could often be done on a red light with low traffic, so it might be faster. Both require more infrastructure (clover leaf lanes or the u-turn and the light for it)
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y agoDriving north on US1 between Phila and NYC, there are several turns where you turn/fork right before an intersection, and then make a left onto the minor road. Particularly true in the 20 miles on either side of Princeton. Yes, I've seen the right-turn after the intersection too.
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y agoe.g (google maps) https://www.google.com/maps/place/Princeton,+NJ/@40.3667281,-74.5985192,16z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c3e6c172d059f1:0x3fcd49934a13d6c2!8m2!3d40.3572976!4d-74.6672226?hl=en https://www.google.com/maps/place/Princeton,+NJ/@40.3667281,...