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You have to recognize the psychology beneath anti-Elon sentiment to understand where this is coming from. It is to a large extent political hatred from the far-

You have to recognize the psychology beneath anti-Elon sentiment to understand where this is coming from. It is to a large extent political hatred from the far-left, and Anonymous is largely a left-activist group right now. Polls run in /r/EnoughMuskSpam confirm the demographic reality of the most staunch Elon haters. Elon is symbolic of capitalism working. He creates cognitive dissonance as someone who applied capitalism (with subsidies that level the playing field versus oil externalities) effectively to environmental sustainability. He creates cognitive dissonance as a capitalist who created innovation (VTOL) that a public government funded agency (NASA) couldn't do by itself. Elon is white, male, and wasn't overtly anti-Trump. Elon's ancestry is white South African. Elon is rich. Elon dislikes regulators. Elon isn't afraid to criticize left-wing politicians in public. These are the real reasons behind the strongest forms of Elon hate on the left that we see. The actual things he's done worthy of criticism (e.g arguably false advertising on Autopilot) factor in but I don't believe it is the real reason underneath it.

tolbish 5y ago
"These are the real reasons" to you only because you agree with them. It did not occur to you that criticism of Elon can also come from observing his actions. Like calling someone a pedophile because they stole Elon's thunder.
- fighterpilot 5y ago
  It did occur to me, and I mentioned that there are valid lines of criticism, I just don't think that they adequately explain his staunchest haters
  - tolbish 5y ago
    Gonna have to call bs on you here. You do not genuinely believe his staunchest haters (whatever that menas... maybe the Twitter posters that get the most likes??) dislike him over his South African ancestry or his ability to innovative in the private space, compared to some of the actual stupid stuff he has said.
    - fighterpilot 5y ago
      There's an underlying anti-capitalism motive. Spend a few hours in /r/EnoughMuskSpam and read the polls there. Elon is peak cognitive dissonance for them. It's the same underlying reason for Jeff Bezos hatred, but on steroids for the reasons I outline above plus the legitimately stupid stuff he's done which you've pointed out
throwawaysea 5y ago
I haven’t visited that subreddit but your points line up with what I have observed with the most staunch critics of Elon that I’ve encountered offline. Thanks for sharing.

tolbish 5y ago

"These are the real reasons" to you only because you agree with them. It did not occur to you that criticism of Elon can also come from observing his actions. Like calling someone a pedophile because they stole Elon's thunder.

fighterpilot 5y ago
It did occur to me, and I mentioned that there are valid lines of criticism, I just don't think that they adequately explain his staunchest haters
- tolbish 5y ago
  Gonna have to call bs on you here. You do not genuinely believe his staunchest haters (whatever that menas... maybe the Twitter posters that get the most likes??) dislike him over his South African ancestry or his ability to innovative in the private space, compared to some of the actual stupid stuff he has said.
  - fighterpilot 5y ago
    There's an underlying anti-capitalism motive. Spend a few hours in /r/EnoughMuskSpam and read the polls there. Elon is peak cognitive dissonance for them. It's the same underlying reason for Jeff Bezos hatred, but on steroids for the reasons I outline above plus the legitimately stupid stuff he's done which you've pointed out

throwawaysea 5y ago

I haven’t visited that subreddit but your points line up with what I have observed with the most staunch critics of Elon that I’ve encountered offline. Thanks for sharing.