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> There are plenty of other companies working on space exploration and electric vehicles you are just the only CEO who has gained a cult following through sh*tp

> There are plenty of other companies working on space exploration and electric vehicles you are just the only CEO who has gained a cult following through sh*tposting and trolling the world on social media. Clearly Musk is neither famous nor admired just because of “trolling”. He’s famous because of repeatedly making bold bets and pulling otherwise stagnant industries forward (like cars and rocketry). Both Tesla and SpaceX are hugely successful and are forcing everyone else to rethink their R&D. Other companies following Musk’s lead as latecomers doesn’t diminish Musk’s critical role in changing those industries. > It appears that your quest to save the world is more rooted in a superiority and savior complex than it is in actual concern for humanity. This is self serving, convenient speculation. It is a high school insult wrapped in bigger words. > You may think you are the smartest person in the room, but now you have met your match. We are Anonymous! We are legion. Expect us. This letter is ultimately a thinly veiled threat, and the actions undertaken by “hacktivists” are plainly illegal. I hope governments take notice and take action against this collective and others like Distributed Denial of Secrets.

tluyben2 5y ago
Take action how? Anyone can order ddos and they use 100000s of hacked windows machines. What can govs do?
fighterpilot 5y ago
You have to recognize the psychology beneath anti-Elon sentiment to understand where this is coming from. It is to a large extent political hatred from the far-left, and Anonymous is largely a left-activist group right now. Polls run in /r/EnoughMuskSpam confirm the demographic reality of the most staunch Elon haters. Elon is symbolic of capitalism working. He creates cognitive dissonance as someone who applied capitalism (with subsidies that level the playing field versus oil externalities) effectively to environmental sustainability. He creates cognitive dissonance as a capitalist who created innovation (VTOL) that a public government funded agency (NASA) couldn't do by itself. Elon is white, male, and wasn't overtly anti-Trump. Elon's ancestry is white South African. Elon is rich. Elon dislikes regulators. Elon isn't afraid to criticize left-wing politicians in public. These are the real reasons behind the strongest forms of Elon hate on the left that we see. The actual things he's done worthy of criticism (e.g arguably false advertising on Autopilot) factor in but I don't believe it is the real reason underneath it.
- tolbish 5y ago
  "These are the real reasons" to you only because you agree with them. It did not occur to you that criticism of Elon can also come from observing his actions. Like calling someone a pedophile because they stole Elon's thunder.
  - fighterpilot 5y ago
    It did occur to me, and I mentioned that there are valid lines of criticism, I just don't think that they adequately explain his staunchest haters
    - tolbish 5y ago
      Gonna have to call bs on you here. You do not genuinely believe his staunchest haters (whatever that menas... maybe the Twitter posters that get the most likes??) dislike him over his South African ancestry or his ability to innovative in the private space, compared to some of the actual stupid stuff he has said.
      - fighterpilot 5y ago
        There's an underlying anti-capitalism motive. Spend a few hours in /r/EnoughMuskSpam and read the polls there. Elon is peak cognitive dissonance for them. It's the same underlying reason for Jeff Bezos hatred, but on steroids for the reasons I outline above plus the legitimately stupid stuff he's done which you've pointed out
- throwawaysea 5y ago
  I haven’t visited that subreddit but your points line up with what I have observed with the most staunch critics of Elon that I’ve encountered offline. Thanks for sharing.
EccentricBunny 5y ago
>Clearly Musk is neither famous nor admired just because of “trolling” Yes but actually no. None of this nonsense would happened without the GME/AMC reddit scandal. But because he was with the good guys, nobody complained about it.

tluyben2 5y ago

Take action how? Anyone can order ddos and they use 100000s of hacked windows machines. What can govs do?

fighterpilot 5y ago

You have to recognize the psychology beneath anti-Elon sentiment to understand where this is coming from. It is to a large extent political hatred from the far-left, and Anonymous is largely a left-activist group right now. Polls run in /r/EnoughMuskSpam confirm the demographic reality of the most staunch Elon haters. Elon is symbolic of capitalism working. He creates cognitive dissonance as someone who applied capitalism (with subsidies that level the playing field versus oil externalities) effectively to environmental sustainability. He creates cognitive dissonance as a capitalist who created innovation (VTOL) that a public government funded agency (NASA) couldn't do by itself. Elon is white, male, and wasn't overtly anti-Trump. Elon's ancestry is white South African. Elon is rich. Elon dislikes regulators. Elon isn't afraid to criticize left-wing politicians in public. These are the real reasons behind the strongest forms of Elon hate on the left that we see. The actual things he's done worthy of criticism (e.g arguably false advertising on Autopilot) factor in but I don't believe it is the real reason underneath it.

tolbish 5y ago
"These are the real reasons" to you only because you agree with them. It did not occur to you that criticism of Elon can also come from observing his actions. Like calling someone a pedophile because they stole Elon's thunder.
- fighterpilot 5y ago
  It did occur to me, and I mentioned that there are valid lines of criticism, I just don't think that they adequately explain his staunchest haters
  - tolbish 5y ago
    Gonna have to call bs on you here. You do not genuinely believe his staunchest haters (whatever that menas... maybe the Twitter posters that get the most likes??) dislike him over his South African ancestry or his ability to innovative in the private space, compared to some of the actual stupid stuff he has said.
    - fighterpilot 5y ago
      There's an underlying anti-capitalism motive. Spend a few hours in /r/EnoughMuskSpam and read the polls there. Elon is peak cognitive dissonance for them. It's the same underlying reason for Jeff Bezos hatred, but on steroids for the reasons I outline above plus the legitimately stupid stuff he's done which you've pointed out
throwawaysea 5y ago
I haven’t visited that subreddit but your points line up with what I have observed with the most staunch critics of Elon that I’ve encountered offline. Thanks for sharing.

EccentricBunny 5y ago

>Clearly Musk is neither famous nor admired just because of “trolling” Yes but actually no. None of this nonsense would happened without the GME/AMC reddit scandal. But because he was with the good guys, nobody complained about it.