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Not an Apple employee but for me it would be the commute not the office that’s the pain point Driving or even bussing down or up or across the bay to get to Ap

by cgb223 5y ago

Not an Apple employee but for me it would be the commute not the office that’s the pain point Driving or even bussing down or up or across the bay to get to Apple is a huge stressor. Doing it every single day both ways easily kills 2 hours of my life. If I stay home and work instead I am better rested, more relaxed, and consequently more productive

WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago
This is interesting on so many levels. Not saying I don’t feel for a terrible commute. But has anyone ever been on Blind? A lot of these people are kind of awful, rich, a-holes. Now coming in the office is too much to ask? The best part is what can Apple really do here… I think a reasonable compromise is cut their salaries by around 20% if you optionally work remote and donate it to education in less fortunate communities in these cities. Be interesting to see how many people show up to the office.
- lanstin 5y ago
  I would take that in a heartbeat. Also fifty percent cut for par work during child rearing years (which I was able to negotiate for myself but was a thought fight). And yes I am blind. I suspect it is a bit of posturing mixed in with a bit of not hiding ones true but shameful beliefs.
- pitterpatter 5y ago
  Keep in mind, the users on blind are not necessarily representative.
  - WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago
    I know. Just, no shortage of verified Apple emails commenting. In all seriousness, I am just concerned for greater income equality from increased remote work.
- draw_down 5y ago
  The bosses aren’t any better, friend.
Vadoff 5y ago
I never understood why someone would live over an hour away from where they work. There's been numerous studies showing the number one cause of unhappiness/dissatisfaction at work is commute time, especially when it reaches over 40 minutes one way. If you live in San Jose, getting to Apple would only be 15-20 minutes. I once had a coworker who lived an hour and 40 minutes away, literally wasting almost 3.5 hours of their day.
- GuardianCaveman 5y ago
  Why would people sacrifice time for a better home for their family? I guess love for their family?
  - jeromegv 5y ago
    Except they get less time with their family. And seeing the average size of a suburban home, is that amount of space needed to love your family or is that an ideal we feel we must have?
    - prepend 5y ago
      This isn’t a complicated scenario to research. My own story is pretty basic. I don’t work for Apple, but the housing near my org is very expensive. Schools aren’t very good. To find the first public schools and safe neighborhood combo, that was 45 minute commute. That was years ago and jobs changed but family is still in same house.
- Cyph0n 5y ago
  Two common reasons: 1. Buying a house 2. Renting a better place
- spoonjim 5y ago
  In the Bay Area houses are extremely hard to transact and jobs are very easy to change. You can’t keep moving around with your job.
- RangerScience 5y ago
gigatexal 5y ago
Same. If I didn’t have a crazy Californian commute if love to go into the office. The new space ship campus looks amazing. I’m sure I could make it work. A lax approach that allowed for teams to decide how best to work be it fully remote or fully in the office or somewhere in between seems like a better solution than a one-size fits all one. But TC is the boss and if he doesn’t relent then people will have to adapt or leave I guess.
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dheera 5y ago
Too bad they chose a city with zero train service and zero public transportation.
- voisin 5y ago
  1) Fix public transport so gridlock is lessened 2) Fix housing regulations to increase supply 3) Fix open concept offices so that people have diversity of work environments are the office and allow people to work from home some days
  - Redoubts 5y ago
    It's easier to leave the state than do any one of these things.
oblib 5y ago
I was sitting in gridlock in LA traffic when I calculated how many hours a year I'd been doing that. I did the math in my head and figured I must be wrong. So I did it with a calculator when I got home. I was not wrong. It was pretty close to a solid year in every 10 years because I spent as much or more time in traffic on the weekends.

by cgb223 5y ago

WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago

This is interesting on so many levels. Not saying I don’t feel for a terrible commute. But has anyone ever been on Blind? A lot of these people are kind of awful, rich, a-holes. Now coming in the office is too much to ask? The best part is what can Apple really do here… I think a reasonable compromise is cut their salaries by around 20% if you optionally work remote and donate it to education in less fortunate communities in these cities. Be interesting to see how many people show up to the office.

lanstin 5y ago
I would take that in a heartbeat. Also fifty percent cut for par work during child rearing years (which I was able to negotiate for myself but was a thought fight). And yes I am blind. I suspect it is a bit of posturing mixed in with a bit of not hiding ones true but shameful beliefs.
pitterpatter 5y ago
Keep in mind, the users on blind are not necessarily representative.
- WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago
  I know. Just, no shortage of verified Apple emails commenting. In all seriousness, I am just concerned for greater income equality from increased remote work.
draw_down 5y ago
The bosses aren’t any better, friend.

Vadoff 5y ago

I never understood why someone would live over an hour away from where they work. There's been numerous studies showing the number one cause of unhappiness/dissatisfaction at work is commute time, especially when it reaches over 40 minutes one way. If you live in San Jose, getting to Apple would only be 15-20 minutes. I once had a coworker who lived an hour and 40 minutes away, literally wasting almost 3.5 hours of their day.

GuardianCaveman 5y ago
Why would people sacrifice time for a better home for their family? I guess love for their family?
- jeromegv 5y ago
  Except they get less time with their family. And seeing the average size of a suburban home, is that amount of space needed to love your family or is that an ideal we feel we must have?
  - prepend 5y ago
    This isn’t a complicated scenario to research. My own story is pretty basic. I don’t work for Apple, but the housing near my org is very expensive. Schools aren’t very good. To find the first public schools and safe neighborhood combo, that was 45 minute commute. That was years ago and jobs changed but family is still in same house.
Cyph0n 5y ago
Two common reasons: 1. Buying a house 2. Renting a better place
spoonjim 5y ago
In the Bay Area houses are extremely hard to transact and jobs are very easy to change. You can’t keep moving around with your job.
RangerScience 5y ago

gigatexal 5y ago

Same. If I didn’t have a crazy Californian commute if love to go into the office. The new space ship campus looks amazing. I’m sure I could make it work. A lax approach that allowed for teams to decide how best to work be it fully remote or fully in the office or somewhere in between seems like a better solution than a one-size fits all one. But TC is the boss and if he doesn’t relent then people will have to adapt or leave I guess.

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dheera 5y ago

Too bad they chose a city with zero train service and zero public transportation.

voisin 5y ago
1) Fix public transport so gridlock is lessened 2) Fix housing regulations to increase supply 3) Fix open concept offices so that people have diversity of work environments are the office and allow people to work from home some days
- Redoubts 5y ago
  It's easier to leave the state than do any one of these things.

oblib 5y ago

I was sitting in gridlock in LA traffic when I calculated how many hours a year I'd been doing that. I did the math in my head and figured I must be wrong. So I did it with a calculator when I got home. I was not wrong. It was pretty close to a solid year in every 10 years because I spent as much or more time in traffic on the weekends.