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Does anyone have thoughts on hybrid? Like 1-2 days per week in the office. You lose the geographic flexibility, but apart from that, it seems like it could pot

Does anyone have thoughts on hybrid? Like 1-2 days per week in the office. You lose the geographic flexibility, but apart from that, it seems like it could potentially offer the best of both worlds?

dagmx 5y ago
Hybrid can be great or completely useless depending on the person and their locality. If you're hybrid, you can't really live further away in cheaper areas, but you now have to set up office space at home for the WFH days. So it's potentially worse than fully WFH or fully on site. You still need to maintain having a vehicle or commute. Of course there are advantages, like spending more time with family and reduced sum commute. But it doesn't allow for people to have a meaningful change in lifestyle that they're seeking.
- chipotle_coyote 5y ago
  > If you're hybrid, you can't really live further away in cheaper areas While I haven't done this (yet?), I've had coworkers who have, and they've successfully lived farther away in cheaper areas. :) What I've seen happen is one of two things: (1) They live far enough away that the commute is hellacious (say, Sacramento to San Francisco, which can run 2+ hours by car each way and 3+ each way via transit), but they're willing to put up with it one or two days a week. (2) They live far enough away that daily commutes are simply infeasible and just come in for a few days to a week every 4–8 weeks, staying in a hotel. This may or may not be paid for by the company, depending on what they've negotiated. (N.B.: I'm aware that there are people who have done daily commutes via plane from, say, LA to SF, but that sort of thing seems to be pretty rare below the executive level.)
  - dagmx 5y ago
    So I think those would work if the hybrid day layout was more flexible. In this case, Apple is two days of WFH (Wednesday/Friday I believe) so your second suggestion wouldn't work (honestly some folk I've spoken to have even considered car camping). If it were contiguous blocks perhaps.
  - grogenaut 5y ago
    I believe amazon's insurance expressly forbids commuting by small aircraft for employees. I know that's not like executive jet but...

Does anyone have thoughts on hybrid? Like 1-2 days per week in the office. You lose the geographic flexibility, but apart from that, it seems like it could potentially offer the best of both worlds?

dagmx 5y ago

Hybrid can be great or completely useless depending on the person and their locality. If you're hybrid, you can't really live further away in cheaper areas, but you now have to set up office space at home for the WFH days. So it's potentially worse than fully WFH or fully on site. You still need to maintain having a vehicle or commute. Of course there are advantages, like spending more time with family and reduced sum commute. But it doesn't allow for people to have a meaningful change in lifestyle that they're seeking.

chipotle_coyote 5y ago
> If you're hybrid, you can't really live further away in cheaper areas While I haven't done this (yet?), I've had coworkers who have, and they've successfully lived farther away in cheaper areas. :) What I've seen happen is one of two things: (1) They live far enough away that the commute is hellacious (say, Sacramento to San Francisco, which can run 2+ hours by car each way and 3+ each way via transit), but they're willing to put up with it one or two days a week. (2) They live far enough away that daily commutes are simply infeasible and just come in for a few days to a week every 4–8 weeks, staying in a hotel. This may or may not be paid for by the company, depending on what they've negotiated. (N.B.: I'm aware that there are people who have done daily commutes via plane from, say, LA to SF, but that sort of thing seems to be pretty rare below the executive level.)
- dagmx 5y ago
  So I think those would work if the hybrid day layout was more flexible. In this case, Apple is two days of WFH (Wednesday/Friday I believe) so your second suggestion wouldn't work (honestly some folk I've spoken to have even considered car camping). If it were contiguous blocks perhaps.
- grogenaut 5y ago
  I believe amazon's insurance expressly forbids commuting by small aircraft for employees. I know that's not like executive jet but...