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"My first real programming language was Julia" Such a 2021 moment! Kind of envious. The first programming language follows you through your career. Mine (C++)

"My first real programming language was Julia" Such a 2021 moment! Kind of envious. The first programming language follows you through your career. Mine (C++) has been a curse and a blessing at the same time. Wish you luck, sincerely. People like you define the next decades.

miguelraz 5y ago
Well, my book on Learn LLVM 12 by Kai Nacke should have arrived today, so I'm not out of the C++ woods just yet. Thanks, cheers to you too!
- mhh__ 5y ago
  I wouldn't learn C++ by learning LLVM if that's what you mean, or at least have one of (say) Stroustrup's books on the shelf.
  - miguelraz 5y ago
    That's fair, but I'm only interested in learning C++ insofar as it helps me understand Julia's internals. I think I did Stroustrup's "Principles and Practice Using C++" for about 12 chapters a while ago; I might revisit it later thanks to your comment.
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      Speaking as someone that does C++ since 1993, and as compiler geek, the OP is right. I advise you to at least read Tour of C++ 2nd edition. Projects like LLVM are one of the reasons C++ will stay around for decades to come, and they make use of many features that you won't find explained how they work on a book describing LLVM APIs.
      - miguelraz 5y ago
        The book arrived today! But yeah I might skim the Tour of C++ - thanks for the *ptr!
lelanthran 5y ago
> The first programming language follows you through your career. I disagree. My first language was C64 BASIC (in which I wrote quite a lot of games). I assure you that it did not follow me through my career :-)
- flakiness 5y ago
  Haha you're right. Maybe I'm just cursed by C++.
  - lelanthran 5y ago
    > Haha you're right. Maybe I'm just cursed by C++. Most people do it the other way around: they curse at C++ :-)
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      The language can't be blamed by the community though. C++ has everything to provide a Java/.NET like experience, and it was on that path during the 90's, with C++ Builder being the surviving jewel of that period. Apparently many in the community cannot grasp the world outside vi/emacs, and anything like OWL/VCL/Qt tooling is evil to be avoided at all costs. That is how we land into a group kiling C++/CX and calling editing IDL files and managing their generated outcome by hand without any kind of VS support, progress.
- jmrm 5y ago
  Mines were ZX Spectrum BASIC and Visual Basic 5.0 (or 6.0, I don't remember well) and I can say the same as you :-)

miguelraz 5y ago

Well, my book on Learn LLVM 12 by Kai Nacke should have arrived today, so I'm not out of the C++ woods just yet. Thanks, cheers to you too!

mhh__ 5y ago
I wouldn't learn C++ by learning LLVM if that's what you mean, or at least have one of (say) Stroustrup's books on the shelf.
- miguelraz 5y ago
  That's fair, but I'm only interested in learning C++ insofar as it helps me understand Julia's internals. I think I did Stroustrup's "Principles and Practice Using C++" for about 12 chapters a while ago; I might revisit it later thanks to your comment.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    Speaking as someone that does C++ since 1993, and as compiler geek, the OP is right. I advise you to at least read Tour of C++ 2nd edition. Projects like LLVM are one of the reasons C++ will stay around for decades to come, and they make use of many features that you won't find explained how they work on a book describing LLVM APIs.
    - miguelraz 5y ago
      The book arrived today! But yeah I might skim the Tour of C++ - thanks for the *ptr!

lelanthran 5y ago

> The first programming language follows you through your career. I disagree. My first language was C64 BASIC (in which I wrote quite a lot of games). I assure you that it did not follow me through my career :-)

flakiness 5y ago
Haha you're right. Maybe I'm just cursed by C++.
- lelanthran 5y ago
  > Haha you're right. Maybe I'm just cursed by C++. Most people do it the other way around: they curse at C++ :-)
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    The language can't be blamed by the community though. C++ has everything to provide a Java/.NET like experience, and it was on that path during the 90's, with C++ Builder being the surviving jewel of that period. Apparently many in the community cannot grasp the world outside vi/emacs, and anything like OWL/VCL/Qt tooling is evil to be avoided at all costs. That is how we land into a group kiling C++/CX and calling editing IDL files and managing their generated outcome by hand without any kind of VS support, progress.
jmrm 5y ago
Mines were ZX Spectrum BASIC and Visual Basic 5.0 (or 6.0, I don't remember well) and I can say the same as you :-)