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Ok so: 1) not use any manager => bad 2) use a 3rd party => pretty crap as the article says 3) use a built-in => great Why would you ever use 2? This is almo

Ok so: 1) not use any manager => bad 2) use a 3rd party => pretty crap as the article says 3) use a built-in => great Why would you ever use 2? This is almost as bad as Bitcoin, which not only solves nothing but also destroys a ton of energy. I have never used a manager except for the builtins. And I would have never expected them (prior to reading this article) to be such utterly junk solutions to just inject additional code into the website itself. I thought there's a dedicated browser API or something.

kennywinker 5y ago
3rd party password managers have a bunch of useful features, which is why I use one. Here are the first few that come to mind: - portability, if I use chrome on my desktop, firefox at work, and safari on mobile I'm out of luck. - built-in password managers only work for websites - I store many non-website security credentials in my password manager - extra details - I often add the security questions for a site into my password manager - compromised password warnings (maybe some of the built in password systems do this now?)
- H8crilA 5y ago
  2, 3, 4 are handled by Chrome, for example. These really are trivial features that any decent corpo can get right. 1 obviously isn't.
  - kennywinker 5y ago
    Oh, yes, I forgot a pretty important one, I don't want to upload all my passwords to google. Offline storage, and direct device-to-device syncing.
  - lazide 5y ago
    Last I checked I couldn’t export Chrome passwords (aka offline backup), couldn’t add non site passwords, and couldn’t manage non site based passwords/secrets with chrome password manager. And that was a month ago?
    - riffraff 5y ago
      You can import chrome passwords from other browsers so I think you can also export them for backup. I agree that I don't think you can add custom secrets.
      - lazide 5y ago
        Sure enough, looks like I was wrong re: export. Thanks! Unfortunately other things are still an issue - https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95606 https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95606
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- squiggleblaz 5y ago
  > - built-in password managers only work for websites - I store many non-website security credentials in my password manager The one integrated with Firefox supports integration with an Android stored password entry tool. As a manager it's of very poor quality - better to do all your actual management from desktop Firefox - but as a tool to enter a stored password into an app, or to save the password you just entered, it works quite nicely. > - compromised password warnings (maybe some of the built in password systems do this now?) Firefox does have that service

kennywinker 5y ago

3rd party password managers have a bunch of useful features, which is why I use one. Here are the first few that come to mind: - portability, if I use chrome on my desktop, firefox at work, and safari on mobile I'm out of luck. - built-in password managers only work for websites - I store many non-website security credentials in my password manager - extra details - I often add the security questions for a site into my password manager - compromised password warnings (maybe some of the built in password systems do this now?)

H8crilA 5y ago
2, 3, 4 are handled by Chrome, for example. These really are trivial features that any decent corpo can get right. 1 obviously isn't.
- kennywinker 5y ago
  Oh, yes, I forgot a pretty important one, I don't want to upload all my passwords to google. Offline storage, and direct device-to-device syncing.
- lazide 5y ago
  Last I checked I couldn’t export Chrome passwords (aka offline backup), couldn’t add non site passwords, and couldn’t manage non site based passwords/secrets with chrome password manager. And that was a month ago?
  - riffraff 5y ago
    You can import chrome passwords from other browsers so I think you can also export them for backup. I agree that I don't think you can add custom secrets.
    - lazide 5y ago
      Sure enough, looks like I was wrong re: export. Thanks! Unfortunately other things are still an issue - https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95606 https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95606
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squiggleblaz 5y ago
> - built-in password managers only work for websites - I store many non-website security credentials in my password manager The one integrated with Firefox supports integration with an Android stored password entry tool. As a manager it's of very poor quality - better to do all your actual management from desktop Firefox - but as a tool to enter a stored password into an app, or to save the password you just entered, it works quite nicely. > - compromised password warnings (maybe some of the built in password systems do this now?) Firefox does have that service