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Personally using a browser based password manager is too restrictive in that you need a browser to access passwords. I use passwords in a lot of places outside

Personally using a browser based password manager is too restrictive in that you need a browser to access passwords. I use passwords in a lot of places outside of browsers and often the interface I'm using has no browser capabilities. Understand using browser based password management if you only ever use passwords on the web. But I'm sure a lot of others, like me, need them outside of that context.

noisem4ker 5y ago
In the case of Firefox, at least, the Lockwise application allows you to use your credentials even outside of the browser, on mobile devices. On the desktop, both Firefox and Chromium allow you to copy passwords so you can paste them in any application.
- mdaniel 5y ago
  Maybe so, but what website do I have to load to get Chrome to offer the password for the app that's in the foreground of my phone? The 1P keyboard knows what app I'm using, and auto fills accordingly
  - noisem4ker 5y ago
    If we're talking mobile OSs, Lockwise can be set as the system autofill service and provide passwords to the running apps. There's also a Google autofill service which I believe shares its credential store with Chrome. My experience is with Android, but I think iOS works the same way.
ramraj07 5y ago
"a lot of others" seems unsubstantiated. I'll argue the majority of folks (even technical) rarely need access to passwords outside of the browser. The only times I need a password outside of chrome is my Macs password, and dockerhub but I've memorized just those two. Occasionally I need the password for Microsoft or intelliJ accounts, but even then I just use my phone to lookup the password in my manager visually and then type it, I'm never letting any password I care about go into my Macs clipboard!
- aflag 5y ago
  What about mobile phone apps, your bank's pin, steam?
  - ramraj07 5y ago
    Typically the non browser based passwords are one-time entries anyway - how many times have you had to enter a steam password? And most browser based managers provide an app as well.
    - aflag 5y ago
      The bank pin is more common, steam and other apps not very frequent. The less frequently you type in a password, the more you need a password manager, though. I also tend to store numbers like national insurance (it's a number not dissimilar to social security number), credit cards and such in my password manager (keepass). I do agree you can open your browser up and check, if you have that handy. But I'm happy with not having to open a full blown browser to get to my secrets and not sharing even my non-browser related secrets with mozilla, google or apple. Anyway, my point was just that there are lots of places that are not web pages that you need to provide passwords to. And I'd actually say that people who aren't techy are more likely to have more than those, than, say, web developers, who tend to do everything on the browser.
askvictor 5y ago
Chrome's password manager syncs to your Google account, which will allow you to use it apps on your (android) phone. I would suspect that Apple's ecosystem has similar functionality.

noisem4ker 5y ago

In the case of Firefox, at least, the Lockwise application allows you to use your credentials even outside of the browser, on mobile devices. On the desktop, both Firefox and Chromium allow you to copy passwords so you can paste them in any application.

mdaniel 5y ago
Maybe so, but what website do I have to load to get Chrome to offer the password for the app that's in the foreground of my phone? The 1P keyboard knows what app I'm using, and auto fills accordingly
- noisem4ker 5y ago
  If we're talking mobile OSs, Lockwise can be set as the system autofill service and provide passwords to the running apps. There's also a Google autofill service which I believe shares its credential store with Chrome. My experience is with Android, but I think iOS works the same way.

ramraj07 5y ago

"a lot of others" seems unsubstantiated. I'll argue the majority of folks (even technical) rarely need access to passwords outside of the browser. The only times I need a password outside of chrome is my Macs password, and dockerhub but I've memorized just those two. Occasionally I need the password for Microsoft or intelliJ accounts, but even then I just use my phone to lookup the password in my manager visually and then type it, I'm never letting any password I care about go into my Macs clipboard!

aflag 5y ago
What about mobile phone apps, your bank's pin, steam?
- ramraj07 5y ago
  Typically the non browser based passwords are one-time entries anyway - how many times have you had to enter a steam password? And most browser based managers provide an app as well.
  - aflag 5y ago
    The bank pin is more common, steam and other apps not very frequent. The less frequently you type in a password, the more you need a password manager, though. I also tend to store numbers like national insurance (it's a number not dissimilar to social security number), credit cards and such in my password manager (keepass). I do agree you can open your browser up and check, if you have that handy. But I'm happy with not having to open a full blown browser to get to my secrets and not sharing even my non-browser related secrets with mozilla, google or apple. Anyway, my point was just that there are lots of places that are not web pages that you need to provide passwords to. And I'd actually say that people who aren't techy are more likely to have more than those, than, say, web developers, who tend to do everything on the browser.

askvictor 5y ago

Chrome's password manager syncs to your Google account, which will allow you to use it apps on your (android) phone. I would suspect that Apple's ecosystem has similar functionality.