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Do you think people are eventually happier without children? In short term, maybe. I guess nobody enjoys changing or feeding a baby at 3a.m. that much. In the l
by _Microft 5y ago
Do you think people are eventually happier without children? In short term, maybe. I guess nobody enjoys changing or feeding a baby at 3a.m. that much. In the long run, I would be surprised if that's still true. Not having relatives when growing old seems like a recipe for misery.
- stemlord 5y agoBoth of your perspectives are equally toxic... have kids if you want them, don't if you don't. I'm sure one can find happiness or misery either way
- ttt0 5y agoAnd telling someone to exercise is fatphobic, expecting people to be social is discriminating against people with aspergers, telling someone to meditate is anti-ADHD people. Do literally whatever you want, I'm sure you can somehow be happy no matter what you do. Toxicity, toxicity everywhere.
- stemlord 5y agoLOL raising a nuclear family isn't the only way to find happiness in life. How narrow minded do you have to be to think that?
- prepend 5y agoNeither perspective is toxic. I’m sure it’s knowable whether kids add or decrease happiness. And there’s probably some outlier set that feels differently than the population. Thinking this doesn’t mean anything about toxicity. Generally speaking I haven’t heard anyone use that word properly in years. It’s a pretty stupid word, unless dealing with chemicals and lethal doses.
- stemlord 5y agoYeah I shouldn't have used "toxic", it sets off people's SJW alarm
- xref 5y ago“Some people like peanut butter and jelly, some don’t, but both viewpoints are fascist.” You used both “toxic” and “sjw” incorrectly, I don’t think these words mean what you think they mean
- stemlord 5y agoI used neither of those words incorrectly and that's not what I said
- prepend 5y agoNot so much alarms, but incorrect usage of the word. Your misuse of toxic is toxic.
- tolbish 5y agoThe word 'toxic' has essentially lost all meaning.
- stemlord 5y agoNot a Britney fan I see
- thrav 5y agoThey’ve done studies, and parents are dramatically happier than non-parents after the teenage years (when the kids leave). It’s a long term investment that pays dividends when you have nothing else you want to do with your life, but chill with your family.
- jldl805 5y agoThat's honorable of you to bring lives into this planet uninvited just so you aren't a little bored later.
- paulryanrogers 5y agoMaybe you meant involuntarily? Planned childbirths are certainly invited. Regardless, it would be selfish if the parent's sole motivation were to produce caregivers. IME many people deciding to have children aren't thinking only of themselves.
- lasfter 5y agoNo, they mean that the children did not consent to birth. It is selfish to have children whatever your motivation, because at some level you unilaterally decide that the suffering they will inevitably feel throughout their life is justified.
- paulryanrogers 5y agoThat assumes ones children will certainly suffer. And while some discomfort may be inevitable my experience is that many parents do consider the potential quality of life. Often consideration is both for their children and themselves. My friends and I certainly thought about it and discussed such things. Anyway, while children may experience good and bad things they'll also be free to decide if life is something they want to personally continue living or not. Many will also be free to choose whether or not to bring children into the world themselves.
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- akomtu 5y agoImo, kids are good when they don't materially affect your lifestyle, i.e. when you're poor or rich. The rest have to choose between kids and a very comfortable lifestyle.
- gumby 5y ago> Not having relatives when growing old seems like a recipe for misery. For some, being old enough not to have to deal with relatives is a joy. The Telecom Revolution has been a gift to many expatriates. For many other who left for a reason. It has been a shackle.
- jliptzin 5y agoI think it's a real crapshoot, most of the time having kids is a net positive in the long run but you could get unlucky and end up with a child requiring nonstop attention for the rest of his/her life due to various medical conditions and that kind of thing totally annihilates your way of life forever. I have witnessed it firsthand.