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So if Hitler liked apples you wouldn't eat any? IMHO people / cultures / civilizations aren't all bad or all good, there's always something to learn about them

So if Hitler liked apples you wouldn't eat any? IMHO people / cultures / civilizations aren't all bad or all good, there's always something to learn about them.

bryanrasmussen 5y ago
If they are not all bad or good are they all the same ( that is to say composed of equal number and value of good and bad parts) that seems unlikely to be the case and would need some theory other than just answering yes so I suppose we will say no. If people / cultures / civilizations vary in the level of goodness and badness in them then it follows that there should be a distribution of societies that are significantly more good than bad, societies that are average, and societies that are significantly more bad than good. If a society is significantly more bad than good it can be true that you could still find something good in them but it becomes questionable if it is worth an individual to study the society to extract this good part from all the bad. Thus I would conclude that it might not be really worthwhile to learn anything from the Aztecs.
- golemotron 5y ago
  > If they are not all bad or good are they all the same ( that is to say composed of equal number and value of good and bad parts) that seems unlikely to be the case and would need some theory other than just answering yes so I suppose we will say no. Good and bad are time and culture specific. In 50 years, many things that we do everyday now will be "bad" and many things that we see as "bad" will be "good."
  - irrational 5y ago
    This is why the phrase “on the right side of history” is so stupid. It is literally impossible to know what is and is not on the right side of history until it actually is history.
    - golemotron 5y ago
      And even then... history takes a long time.
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    - type0 5y ago
      There are no sides to history, winners write it.
- m0llusk 5y ago
  It might be worth noting that the Aztecs demonstrated that if you cannot defend yourself against warlike peoples then lousy become their subjects. This is a lesson of enduring importance.
  - Gibbon1 5y ago
    The Aztecs had a neighboring state to the north east I think. Who were not as violent or warlike as the Aztecs. Every time the Aztecs went to war against them they got rekt. One historian I read said if Cortez had shown up 50-100 years later they probably would have ended up facing those those guys first instead of the Aztecs and had a really bad time.
bostonpete 5y ago
I probably wouldn't be too interested in taking advice from Hitler about how to find happiness

So if Hitler liked apples you wouldn't eat any? IMHO people / cultures / civilizations aren't all bad or all good, there's always something to learn about them.

bryanrasmussen 5y ago

If they are not all bad or good are they all the same ( that is to say composed of equal number and value of good and bad parts) that seems unlikely to be the case and would need some theory other than just answering yes so I suppose we will say no. If people / cultures / civilizations vary in the level of goodness and badness in them then it follows that there should be a distribution of societies that are significantly more good than bad, societies that are average, and societies that are significantly more bad than good. If a society is significantly more bad than good it can be true that you could still find something good in them but it becomes questionable if it is worth an individual to study the society to extract this good part from all the bad. Thus I would conclude that it might not be really worthwhile to learn anything from the Aztecs.

golemotron 5y ago
> If they are not all bad or good are they all the same ( that is to say composed of equal number and value of good and bad parts) that seems unlikely to be the case and would need some theory other than just answering yes so I suppose we will say no. Good and bad are time and culture specific. In 50 years, many things that we do everyday now will be "bad" and many things that we see as "bad" will be "good."
- irrational 5y ago
  This is why the phrase “on the right side of history” is so stupid. It is literally impossible to know what is and is not on the right side of history until it actually is history.
  - golemotron 5y ago
    And even then... history takes a long time.
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
  - type0 5y ago
    There are no sides to history, winners write it.
m0llusk 5y ago
It might be worth noting that the Aztecs demonstrated that if you cannot defend yourself against warlike peoples then lousy become their subjects. This is a lesson of enduring importance.
- Gibbon1 5y ago
  The Aztecs had a neighboring state to the north east I think. Who were not as violent or warlike as the Aztecs. Every time the Aztecs went to war against them they got rekt. One historian I read said if Cortez had shown up 50-100 years later they probably would have ended up facing those those guys first instead of the Aztecs and had a really bad time.

bostonpete 5y ago

I probably wouldn't be too interested in taking advice from Hitler about how to find happiness