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Is this constructive? I asked for help, and all you do is write off-topic posts criticizing. Thanks. But no thanks. Perhaps, --- just perhaps --- you should rec

Is this constructive? I asked for help, and all you do is write off-topic posts criticizing. Thanks. But no thanks. Perhaps, --- just perhaps --- you should reconsider you effing assumptions.

the_third_wave 5y ago
Yes, it is constructive in that your colleagues are much better off ignoring innate characteristics like sex in the quest for editor tutorials. I do not know whether your colleagues prompted you to specifically search for female-narrated tutorials or if this is your own initiative. If the former is true you can actually help them by pointing out that the sex of the narrator has no bearing on the suitability of the tutorial for people of the opposite sex. If this is your own initiative I'd suggest you drop the requirement for a female narrator and ask yourself whether you would want to only listen to male narrators. Assuming that you do not care whether a tutorial is presented by a male or a female it is no more than logical to assume that the same goes for your female colleagues.
- jonnycomputer 5y ago
  Perhaps you didn't read what I was trying to accomplish. Perhaps you leaped to conclusions, because you got triggered. Perhaps you should take a moment and realize that I'm not approaching people who already use emacs and org-mode. Perhaps you might have realized that I looked at the videos online and didn't think that they would make Emacs or org-mode appealing to my target audience. Perhaps, you might consider, whether you like it or not, that the messenger matters, instead of lecturing people that it shouldn't. Perhaps you should consider that marketers know something you don't about making products appealing to segments of the market. Perhaps you could have honored my request to keep discussion on topic instead of hijacking it go on your tirade. Perhaps you've been shadow banned twice (your words) for a reason.
  - jonnycomputer 5y ago
    And frankly if it seems I'm pissed, its because I am. I was asking for information, and seemed well along to getting it, when a whole bunch of people like you flagged and hijacked it because you got triggered. Talk about cancelling and need for safe-spaces. Sheesh.
    - the_third_wave 5y ago
      The mere fact that several people did not respond to your question in an affirming way does not mean those people "hijacked" the thread, nor does it imply these people were "triggered". They responded, like I did, to a question which portrays segregation based on innate characteristics (sex, in this case) as a positive thing by pointing out this is actually counterproductive. Had your question been phrased differently - e.g. does anyone know of any tutorials on this subject which do not preach to the choir or ...which do not seem to be targeting the in-crowd the responses would have been different, you would probably have gotten suggestions for tutorials produced by men and women alike without any of these having been selected specifically based on the presenter's sex.

Is this constructive? I asked for help, and all you do is write off-topic posts criticizing. Thanks. But no thanks. Perhaps, --- just perhaps --- you should reconsider you effing assumptions.

the_third_wave 5y ago

Yes, it is constructive in that your colleagues are much better off ignoring innate characteristics like sex in the quest for editor tutorials. I do not know whether your colleagues prompted you to specifically search for female-narrated tutorials or if this is your own initiative. If the former is true you can actually help them by pointing out that the sex of the narrator has no bearing on the suitability of the tutorial for people of the opposite sex. If this is your own initiative I'd suggest you drop the requirement for a female narrator and ask yourself whether you would want to only listen to male narrators. Assuming that you do not care whether a tutorial is presented by a male or a female it is no more than logical to assume that the same goes for your female colleagues.

jonnycomputer 5y ago
Perhaps you didn't read what I was trying to accomplish. Perhaps you leaped to conclusions, because you got triggered. Perhaps you should take a moment and realize that I'm not approaching people who already use emacs and org-mode. Perhaps you might have realized that I looked at the videos online and didn't think that they would make Emacs or org-mode appealing to my target audience. Perhaps, you might consider, whether you like it or not, that the messenger matters, instead of lecturing people that it shouldn't. Perhaps you should consider that marketers know something you don't about making products appealing to segments of the market. Perhaps you could have honored my request to keep discussion on topic instead of hijacking it go on your tirade. Perhaps you've been shadow banned twice (your words) for a reason.
- jonnycomputer 5y ago
  And frankly if it seems I'm pissed, its because I am. I was asking for information, and seemed well along to getting it, when a whole bunch of people like you flagged and hijacked it because you got triggered. Talk about cancelling and need for safe-spaces. Sheesh.
  - the_third_wave 5y ago
    The mere fact that several people did not respond to your question in an affirming way does not mean those people "hijacked" the thread, nor does it imply these people were "triggered". They responded, like I did, to a question which portrays segregation based on innate characteristics (sex, in this case) as a positive thing by pointing out this is actually counterproductive. Had your question been phrased differently - e.g. does anyone know of any tutorials on this subject which do not preach to the choir or ...which do not seem to be targeting the in-crowd the responses would have been different, you would probably have gotten suggestions for tutorials produced by men and women alike without any of these having been selected specifically based on the presenter's sex.