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I still have a (fading) scar on my calf from that one time I ran past some tables in a cafe as a toddler. I hold no ill will towards the dog that leapt out from

I still have a (fading) scar on my calf from that one time I ran past some tables in a cafe as a toddler. I hold no ill will towards the dog that leapt out from under a table and sunk his jaws into my leg before the owners could even react. But let's be clear that big dog + unfamiliar small child is not about "can you read the tells".

kodah 5y ago
Sure, it doesn't always work that way. Dogs are still animals and can be unpredictable. That does not rise to the level of shooting some stray or off-leash dog. I still have puncture marks in my hand from when I dislodged a sucker from my childhood dogs throat and he bit down. Defending yourself and being a violent person are two different things. The man who shoots any off-leash or stray dog is just violent.
- efraim 5y ago
  >Dogs are still animals and can be unpredictable. Which is precisely why they must be on a leash, always. Except in a fenced off area maybe.
  - kodah 5y ago
    There are a lot of places that put on their website or Google maps that they're dog friendly and allow off-leash or on-leash visits. So "always" is not even near correct here, it is on a dog owner (and other visitors) to determine whether the place they're visiting is dog-friendly and to what degree.
    - fugfjj 5y ago
      ??? If youre in an off leash park do what ever you want. No one is arguing that. Im annoyed at the leash-less dogs in parks where dogs aren't even allowed. Although they're the least of my problems, a neighbor has a couple of pet pigs.
      - kodah 5y ago
        I'm guessing you missed the whole point of who I was replying to. They weren't defending anyone or talking about an aggressive dog, they were talking about a dog that walked up to a man and he shot it. That was the example. That is a by definition example of a sociopath, dog owners not putting their stupid dog on a leash is probably irresponsible or selfish, but not sociopathic. I've already acknowledged there's nuance to the idea of being able to shoot a dog, much like there is to shooting a human. You were so desperate to argue your silly little point about defense that you forgot you, and some of the other folks here, are defending someone who shot a dog for no reason. That's who you defended and voted for. That's what I was upset about.

kodah 5y ago

Sure, it doesn't always work that way. Dogs are still animals and can be unpredictable. That does not rise to the level of shooting some stray or off-leash dog. I still have puncture marks in my hand from when I dislodged a sucker from my childhood dogs throat and he bit down. Defending yourself and being a violent person are two different things. The man who shoots any off-leash or stray dog is just violent.

efraim 5y ago
>Dogs are still animals and can be unpredictable. Which is precisely why they must be on a leash, always. Except in a fenced off area maybe.
- kodah 5y ago
  There are a lot of places that put on their website or Google maps that they're dog friendly and allow off-leash or on-leash visits. So "always" is not even near correct here, it is on a dog owner (and other visitors) to determine whether the place they're visiting is dog-friendly and to what degree.
  - fugfjj 5y ago
    ??? If youre in an off leash park do what ever you want. No one is arguing that. Im annoyed at the leash-less dogs in parks where dogs aren't even allowed. Although they're the least of my problems, a neighbor has a couple of pet pigs.
    - kodah 5y ago
      I'm guessing you missed the whole point of who I was replying to. They weren't defending anyone or talking about an aggressive dog, they were talking about a dog that walked up to a man and he shot it. That was the example. That is a by definition example of a sociopath, dog owners not putting their stupid dog on a leash is probably irresponsible or selfish, but not sociopathic. I've already acknowledged there's nuance to the idea of being able to shoot a dog, much like there is to shooting a human. You were so desperate to argue your silly little point about defense that you forgot you, and some of the other folks here, are defending someone who shot a dog for no reason. That's who you defended and voted for. That's what I was upset about.