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I think we’re already past cliches and stereotypes when talking of all dog owners who walk without a leash! I’m from USA. On the same page with you here about
by blamazon 5y ago
I think we’re already past cliches and stereotypes when talking of all dog owners who walk without a leash!
I’m from USA. On the same page with you here about the collectivist vs individual freedom. As you noted it’s a tragedy of the commons—-because unquestioned individual freedom is prized so heavily in USA, some dog owners take advantage of it without appropriate precaution, and those people tend to do things like call the police on black people, or scare and injure children by accident with their dogs, and these incidents correspondingly build our stereotype of off-leashers. Ironically this also leads to laws and rules and a general social attitude that restrict our individual freedom to walk dogs off leash.
In that way, Europeans are more ‘individually free’ on this topic because, as you note, off leash dog walking is totally normal over there because people wouldn’t think of doing it without appropriate control of their dog. Interesting to think about the tension and paradoxes between individual and collectivist freedoms.
But, you probably have some annoying dog tax ;)
- smcl 5y agoWe actually do have such a tax! And I'm glad you reminded me because my residency status changed meaning that I now need to start paying this :D The tax is from the local municipality, and I think it’s for upkeep of some dog infrastructure - dedicated dog parks, bins with little bags. It’s not much
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- alentist 5y ago> As you noted it’s a tragedy of the commons—-because unquestioned individual freedom is prized so heavily in USA, some dog owners take advantage of it without appropriate precaution, and those people tend to do things like call the police on black people This passage doesn't make sense. It's a word salad.
- blamazon 5y agoBlame the Saturday cannabis.
- smcl 5y agoHappens to me even when I’m not under the influence
- smcl 5y agoWait it's not actually word salad, it makes sense. I was out and about and wasn't able to spend time reading it before dashing off my flippant jokey reply below, so I only read it now. So despite the Saturday Spliff, blamazon is pretty coherent. Can you describe what doesn't make sense to you?
- alentist 5y agoI'm not sure where to begin, and frankly I'm astonished you think any of it "makes sense". To start with, do you know what a tragedy of the commons is? Second, why would "individual freedom being prized so heavily" entail "people tending to do things like call the police"? Are you familiar with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unofficial_collaborator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unofficial_collaborator and the like in authoritarian countries? Third, what's the source for this bizarre claim that "those [dog owners] tend to do things like call the police on black people"? Fourth, in what way is the latter at all relevant to the topic?