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How? Honest question. These companies are large, but they don't have too much power in these countries. Especially China has a lot of internal alternatives (Al

How? Honest question. These companies are large, but they don't have too much power in these countries. Especially China has a lot of internal alternatives (Aliexpress cloud and Baidu for example), so external pressure will really only help them. Case in point: Huawei's Playstore ban - this would probably have killed the phone division of a western country. Then there's the problem of biting the (kid's) hand that builds your hardware and/or servers and the one that pays your bill (AWS customers are not going to be happy when their Chinese customers are blocked). Irrespective of the discussion on whether the tech giants taking such massive political influence is a good thing, I simply don't see how they could.

baybal2 5y ago
IP addresses, American dotcoms taken together control a double digit percentage of all IPV4 addresses. + Android + Windows
- drexlspivey 5y ago
  Then they will just ban the IPs?
  - baybal2 5y ago
    And half of the Internet
- Sebb767 5y ago
  IP adresses don't matter much - China has a lot of them and in the worst case, they could simply reroute them at the firewall and reuse them internally. Android is fully open source, oonly the play store is controlled by Google. China already has a lot of alternatives (and have a look at Huawei on how well that block worked). Windows would put hurt a bit, yes, but cracked versions of it are not a rarity. Additionally, there's always Linux. So unless MS remote-wipes their machines (and kill themselves by doing so), it would probably not hurt either. And if the country is smaller, like Nigeria, China will be happy to offer their help for a bit of political influence.
  - baybal2 5y ago
    > And if the country is smaller, like Nigeria, China will be happy to offer their help for a bit of political influence. And why not to let them? Half the kingdom for a privilege to kill somebody's Facebook page? A very good trade. Dictators are even more well aware than democracies what opening the door to Beijing means. They will rather not to.
agustif 5y ago
They could just allow a handful of their devforce to open source the means (software) for being able to connect to the (real and free) internet from anywhere in earth, no matter what govt rules you've to abide too or whatever! Doesn't this happen somehow? it's just hard technically, I'm sure we can improve the UX

baybal2 5y ago

IP addresses, American dotcoms taken together control a double digit percentage of all IPV4 addresses. + Android + Windows

drexlspivey 5y ago
Then they will just ban the IPs?
- baybal2 5y ago
  And half of the Internet
Sebb767 5y ago
IP adresses don't matter much - China has a lot of them and in the worst case, they could simply reroute them at the firewall and reuse them internally. Android is fully open source, oonly the play store is controlled by Google. China already has a lot of alternatives (and have a look at Huawei on how well that block worked). Windows would put hurt a bit, yes, but cracked versions of it are not a rarity. Additionally, there's always Linux. So unless MS remote-wipes their machines (and kill themselves by doing so), it would probably not hurt either. And if the country is smaller, like Nigeria, China will be happy to offer their help for a bit of political influence.
- baybal2 5y ago
  > And if the country is smaller, like Nigeria, China will be happy to offer their help for a bit of political influence. And why not to let them? Half the kingdom for a privilege to kill somebody's Facebook page? A very good trade. Dictators are even more well aware than democracies what opening the door to Beijing means. They will rather not to.

agustif 5y ago

They could just allow a handful of their devforce to open source the means (software) for being able to connect to the (real and free) internet from anywhere in earth, no matter what govt rules you've to abide too or whatever! Doesn't this happen somehow? it's just hard technically, I'm sure we can improve the UX