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Who are these "woke" people? We don't see them in comments here on HN to defend themselves. Are they strawmen, loud groups and living in their own bubble? I'd
by loopz 5y ago
Who are these "woke" people? We don't see them in comments here on HN to defend themselves. Are they strawmen, loud groups and living in their own bubble?
I'd ask the same for far-right too.
Are these platforming issues?
- concordDance 5y agoAs the cultural pendulum swings people are more or less vocal. Four years ago the woke were in ascendence on HN (being vocal on their opinions) and now the anti-woke are. I don't fully understand what drives these trends.
- loopz 5y agoMost people join in the middle of the swing perhaps, then get dragged too far to one extreme.
- cloudfifty 5y ago"The middle" is no position though. The middle in the US is and has been wildly different over the last 50 years. Both in the US itself and certainly compared to Western-European countries. An example would be that an old school democratic socialist since the 80ths or whatever shouldn't be seen as an extremist now just because the window has shifted so far to the right with Trump etc.
- routerl 5y agoNot only that, but there is a tendency to group too many phenomena under the heading of "woke", both by people describing themselves with that label, and describing others. For instance, I've seen people deride someone for "being too woke" when the issue at hand was sexual harassment. This is clearly absurd, since we have laws about sexual harassment, and it can't be simply "woke" people who respect laws. On the flip side, things like "let's not name our principal branch 'master'" are, to me at least, clear examples of excessive wokeness. This word, "woke", has become a smokescreen. People who use the same word may not be remotely talking about the same things. They only seem to be agreeing, but neither one actually knows what the other is saying. "Woke" is a pointer, whose pointed at memory location has wildly varying values for different people.