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Kansas is Flatter Than a Pancake (2003)
- _Microft 5y agoI am only getting a search results page with no results. It was like this hours ago already when the submission was still in the second chance pool. Edit: seems to be a problem with my Firefox profile. A new profile works. My apologies for polluting the comment section with this and thanks to the commenters for helping me figure this out.
- timeinput 5y agoI see an article with a first subheading of "In this report, we apply basic scientific techniques to answer the question “Is Kansas as flat as a pancake?”." It's kind of a funny article. Maybe try this mirror: https://web.archive.org/web/20210511013956/http://www.usu.edu/geo/geomorph/kansas.html https://web.archive.org/web/20210511013956/http://www.usu.ed... ?
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- cwyers 5y agoI click on it and I get a page talking about how Kansas is flatter than a pancake. I don't know why it didn't work for you.
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- _Microft 5y agoOh, please do not downvote them. The comment might be stating something obvious for you but it actually helped me notice that the problem was on my side.
- egeozcan 5y agoI was downvoted to an unreadable gray, was just sharing what worked for me on Firefox. Enhanced tracking protection makes the browser redirect to https when available and the server weirdly redirects to a 404 page when you try the same url with https. I don't understand why people dislike me just stating the fact? Given a reasoning I'd be more careful but...
- _Microft 5y agoIt's weird sometimes but don't let this stop you from helping others, I appreciated your effort in any case.
- gbrown_ 5y agoI had the same, seems to be a result of having HTTPS-Only Mode enabled. Looks like usu.edu is available over HTTPS but not this page.
- egeozcan 5y agoWhen the Firefox enhanced privacy protection is on, it redirects to the not found page. Weird. Some cookie confusion or redirection issue I guess.
- teachingassist 5y agoSame issue in Chrome.
- HJain13 5y agoSo is rest of the earth; Youtube channel Vsauce covered this in one their videos https://youtu.be/mxhxL1LzKww?t=721 https://youtu.be/mxhxL1LzKww?t=721
- peteretep 5y ago"So is rest of the earth" ... when taken as a whole, though. Switzerland is not flat as a pancake, for example.
- HJain13 5y agoFrom what I understood from the video, the surface irregularities a general pancake can have when stretched to dimensions of the earth would lead to 10km high feature; Given even Mt. Everest is <9km, I am not sure why Switzerland wouldn't fit the definition edit: Typo
- pintxo 5y agoIf you stretch the pancake only to the dimensions of Switzerland, the vertical features would be a lot less high. And Switzerland has quite some height differences within a small area.
- cjwilliams 5y agoOr a more extreme example: If you stretched the pancake to just the width of Everest clearly Everest would be less flat.
- brudgers 5y agoThe peaks measure ~9km above sea level. The deepest portions of the ocean add another 3-4km.
- tnli 5y agoNot sure how to read this, but have you heard of the Mariana Trench?
- pintxo 5y agoRelevant xkcd: https://what-if.xkcd.com/46/ https://what-if.xkcd.com/46/
- WalterBright 5y agoThere are places in Kansas where you can turn 360 degrees and see not a hill, tree, structure, or any landmarks at all (other than the road). You see the curve of the earth. It looks like a golden ocean.
- Zenst 5y agoWould love a good google street-view link too that. [edit add] had a google, nowt special jumping out beyond some rather good jokes of which one I feel sums things up nicely "Kansas is so flat you can watch your dog run away for two weeks".
- Tempest1981 5y agoI found this, Hwy 96: (38.4823316, -100.6892430) https://goo.gl/maps/iRajjCbBDJQMz5ud7 https://goo.gl/maps/iRajjCbBDJQMz5ud7
- lostapathy 5y agoParts of Iowa and Illinois are much flatter than any parts of Kansas I’ve ever been to. Incredibly so. People romanticize this idea that Kansas is a flat nothing-land, luckily most of them also stay away. Kansas is only the 7th flattest state, even https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/flattest-states https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/flattest-st...
- ericmay 5y agoLiving in Ohio I was surprised to see that we are less flat than North Carolina and the tiniest bit flatter than Nebraska. Thanks for sharing!
- jlkuester7 5y agoI think the big reason for KS's flat reputation vs places like Florida, Illinois, Louisiana, Minnesota, and Delaware is trees (or lack thereof). In SW Kansas (the flattest part of the state) you can drive for miles and miles of endless flatness without hardly seeing a single tree. There is just nothing that disrupts your view of the horizon. It is a bit of a different experience then being in a flat forest/swamp. (Also, the terrain of eastern/central KS is very different from the west. So if your only experience of KS is Wichita/Kansas City/Topeka, then you don't know how truly flat the other half of the state actually is...)
- ryanthedev 5y agoDamn flat.
- leipert 5y agoGerman pancakes (Eierkuchen) are considerably more flat, especially in Eastern Germany.
- Armisael16 5y ago‘Flat’ is referring the surface of the pancake here, not the overall thickness.
- dundercoder 5y agoIn the words of my grandfather “you could stand on a tuna can and see the back of your head it’s so flat”
- ed25519FUUU 5y ago“It’s so flat you can watch your dog run away for 3 days”
- neverartful 5y agoThe Flint Hills in Kansas are certainly not flat. It's actually a beautiful part of Kansas.
- BenjiWiebe 5y agoWhere I live in central Kansas there's plenty of (small) hills and trees. Also as someone else mentioned, the Flint Hills are not flat. Western Kansas is the part that's mind numbingly flat.
- jey 5y agoI object to their methodology. They are including the sides of the pancake to model the pancake as having a plateau-like topology to conclude that it's "not flat". Clearly the pancake being referred to in the adage "Kansas is as flat as a pancake" is referring to the interior region of a pancake that excludes the edges. A more appropriate methodology would model only a Kansas sized interior of a larger North America sized pancake, without the cliff-like edges.
- whatshisface 5y agoCheck the x-axis/y-axis ratio of the graphs. Even if the pancake edges weren't included I think Kansas could still be flatter.
- sdenton4 5y agoScience is a conversation, my friend! I encourage you to gather some new data and write a rebuttal article.
- ufo 5y agoNext time they should compare it to a Kansas vinyl album.