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Is this in any way surprising? In Latin countries, everyone is used to gendered nouns as that’s a core feature of the language. In Anglo cultures it is not.

toyg 5y ago
Most Latino people are also less "touchy feely" about these subjects. See for example the brouhaha around South American football players like Edison Cavani using words like "negrito" in affectionate terms. South and Central America have bigger fish to fry than worrying about prudish neovictorian attitudes.
- walshemj 5y ago
  Your not seriously saying that Latin America does' not have racist attitudes and systemic racism? Maybe you should ask some of the indigenous peoples oh wait the colonizers pretty much wiped them out didn't they
  - Bayart 5y ago
    Latin America isn't North America. There were large populations of agrarian peoples used as a workforce by the Spanish. And these people weren't wiped out in most cases. They mixed with the colonizers to varying degrees and are now those you call Latinos. The reason people from the older Hispano-American colonies often look *nothing* like Spaniards and Portuguese people is simply because they're partially or fully indigenous. North America remained available so late to colonization because the Spanish saw it as worthless as it didn't fit at all with their latifundial industry, precisely because it lacked the population and the farming that could easily be converted over to estates.
    - dragonwriter 5y ago
      > Latin America isn't North America. A significant part of North America is also Latin America, and vice-versa. > There were large populations of agrarian peoples used as a workforce by the Spanish. Therr were large populations of people virtually (and sometime precisely) enslaved by the Spabish as agrarian workforce; they weren’t always specifically agrarian (any more than any other preindustrial population, including the colonizers) before that. And, yes, through enslavement and other mistreatment, they, and even moreso their pre-conquest identities and cultures, were often wiped out. Sure, there are some remnants and admixture with the colonizers and other imported subject populations; that’s true of the native subjects of genocide in the parts of North America colonized by the British and French, as well.
  - type0 5y ago
    > ...oh wait the colonizers pretty much wiped them out didn't they Latinx is a term invented and used by US cultural colonialists, that's both subjugating and xenophobic.
    - walshemj 5y ago
      What does the Spanish/Portuguese conquest of Latin America have to do with the use of "Latinx"
      - type0 5y ago
        Sure, tell me: What does the Spanish/Portuguese conquest of Latin America have to do with the use of "Latinx"? It doesn't help it, it does it. There are different native ethnicities still living and trying to maintain their culture and then US cultural imperialists go put everyone into one bucket and call it a day.
        walshemj 5y ago
        That wasn't the comment I was responding to was it. my comment was about Spanish and Latin Americans in denial about racism and their colonial past

toyg 5y ago

Most Latino people are also less "touchy feely" about these subjects. See for example the brouhaha around South American football players like Edison Cavani using words like "negrito" in affectionate terms. South and Central America have bigger fish to fry than worrying about prudish neovictorian attitudes.

walshemj 5y ago
Your not seriously saying that Latin America does' not have racist attitudes and systemic racism? Maybe you should ask some of the indigenous peoples oh wait the colonizers pretty much wiped them out didn't they
- Bayart 5y ago
  Latin America isn't North America. There were large populations of agrarian peoples used as a workforce by the Spanish. And these people weren't wiped out in most cases. They mixed with the colonizers to varying degrees and are now those you call Latinos. The reason people from the older Hispano-American colonies often look *nothing* like Spaniards and Portuguese people is simply because they're partially or fully indigenous. North America remained available so late to colonization because the Spanish saw it as worthless as it didn't fit at all with their latifundial industry, precisely because it lacked the population and the farming that could easily be converted over to estates.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > Latin America isn't North America. A significant part of North America is also Latin America, and vice-versa. > There were large populations of agrarian peoples used as a workforce by the Spanish. Therr were large populations of people virtually (and sometime precisely) enslaved by the Spabish as agrarian workforce; they weren’t always specifically agrarian (any more than any other preindustrial population, including the colonizers) before that. And, yes, through enslavement and other mistreatment, they, and even moreso their pre-conquest identities and cultures, were often wiped out. Sure, there are some remnants and admixture with the colonizers and other imported subject populations; that’s true of the native subjects of genocide in the parts of North America colonized by the British and French, as well.
- type0 5y ago
  > ...oh wait the colonizers pretty much wiped them out didn't they Latinx is a term invented and used by US cultural colonialists, that's both subjugating and xenophobic.
  - walshemj 5y ago
    What does the Spanish/Portuguese conquest of Latin America have to do with the use of "Latinx"
    - type0 5y ago
      Sure, tell me: What does the Spanish/Portuguese conquest of Latin America have to do with the use of "Latinx"? It doesn't help it, it does it. There are different native ethnicities still living and trying to maintain their culture and then US cultural imperialists go put everyone into one bucket and call it a day.
      - walshemj 5y ago
        That wasn't the comment I was responding to was it. my comment was about Spanish and Latin Americans in denial about racism and their colonial past