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It's false equivalence to say that just because someone wants identity politics out of work, they also are against representation and discrimination. Someone m
by dannyw 5y ago
It's false equivalence to say that just because someone wants identity politics out of work, they also are against representation and discrimination.
Someone may support active efforts to address inequality in the workplace (eg better interviewing procedures, bias training, inclusive language in products), but be against anything that's political, such as supporting black lives matter or taking a position on middle east conflicts at work.
It doesn't mean they disagree with the latter. They just want it out of work, they might even support it.
- tootie 5y agoI don't think identity politics is really the problem. That's not synonymous with wanting representation. And BLM isn't political. It's just acknowledging that black lives matter. It becomes political when a political party makes a point of not refusing to say it.
- LegitShady 5y agoI've read their platform and I disagree.
- tootie 5y agoThey don't have a platform besides what's in the name. Any website with a formal agenda isn't "official" in any sense nor have 99% of people marching for justice read whatever you read. It's just black lives matter. And people engineering reasons to avoid saying it without explicitly saying black lives don't matter.
- LegitShady 5y agoYou have it exactly backwards - I believe black live matter, but I don't believe in the organization BLM and they do have an an organization and an agenda. It's a kafka trap to name your organization with political goals some obviously positive name, and then declare anyone who does not support your organizations methods or particulars of its agenda as a hater of that positive name. It's so transparent we're just in an age where being honest is rare, and people will convince themselves obviously untrue things - 'they don't have a platform' but they removed their 'what we believe page' including being against the nuclear family https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-blasting-nuclear-family-structure/ https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-b... . It's a weird sort of denial of reality to just insist things don't exist, like an organization (which BLM is) with a formal agenda (which BLM has, even if they tried to obfuscate after being criticized for it's more radical and harmful ideas).
- gorydetails 5y agoAnd clean coal simply means coal that is clean.
- tootie 5y agoYeah and it would be great if it existed. I don't get your point. Some movements are fundamentally insincere and some are genuine.
- gorydetails 5y agoIf you believe BLM literally means affirming that “Black lives matter” and nothing else, I’d invite you to consider their exactly 13 principles (for kids no less): https://sites.education.miami.edu/crecer/wp-content/uploads/sites/22/2020/06/13-Principles-for-Elementary.pdf https://sites.education.miami.edu/crecer/wp-content/uploads/... There’s hardly anything genuine about the BLM political organization of today, and it’s clearly not limited, as the gp claimed, to affirming that “Black lives matter.” So yes, Clean Coal(tm) is analogous.