> And we will get there faster with more people, more people working on these issues. I thought you were arguing against forcibly shrinking the population (whi

> And we will get there faster with more people, more people working on these issues. I thought you were arguing against forcibly shrinking the population (which I don't think anyone was advocating btw), but are you actually arguing to grow the population as a way to improve things environmentally? Having more people in the world does not lead to "more people are working on these issues". Well, maybe it could, but it would be one of the least efficient (and most indirect) ways to make it happen. > Btw more population also usually results in more urbanization and more efficient energy use per person. Problem: We've got a problem with too many humans being ineffecient. Answer: increase the population to get more ubanization, which brings some efficiencies. I'll just ignore the decrease in quality of life for everyone, and just say that this doesn't seem like an elegant solution.