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I switched to terminal from iTerm 1. I switched to iTerm 2 from terminal because of: - true split windows (cmd-d horizontal, cmd-shift-d vertical), as many as

I switched to terminal from iTerm 1. I switched to iTerm 2 from terminal because of: - true split windows (cmd-d horizontal, cmd-shift-d vertical), as many as you can fit - good split window navigation (cmd-opt-arrow) - "save" window split setup - cmd-shift-s to save, cmd-shift-r to restore - better search, all from the command line - full 256 color support without any hacks - copy to clipboard on selection option (similar to windows shell if you're familiar with that) - fullscreen mode with cmd-enter - better speed than iTerm 1 (comparable to terminal, the reason I switched to it in the first place) (I don't think I've remapped the above keys, but if I have, easy key remapping is another nice thing about iTerm2 :)

shabble 15y ago
The "Instant-Replay" (View->Go back in time) can be a handy little feature if you've ever wanted to look up something that turns out not to be in the scrollback because it was a full-screen app running on the alternate screen buffer, or whatever. It's also good for checking out /when/ something happened, after the fact. I've not used it much, but when I've needed to, it's been a lifesaver.
jrockway 15y ago
So tmux with a shiny 200x200 icon?
- dmuino 15y ago
  I use it with tmux. The main reason I use it is because of its full screen support and the unixy behavior for focus follows mouse, copy on select, middle button paste.
- shabble 15y ago
  One of the features slated for v1.1 or thereabouts is deep integration with tmux. http://code.google.com/p/iterm2/wiki/TmuxIntegration http://code.google.com/p/iterm2/wiki/TmuxIntegration and https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ABI0kqUUxoAjxhWW3AsWFis6bgvMoEbcTcA2N21ncmU/edit?hl=en&authkey=COHZn78P&pli=1 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ABI0kqUUxoAjxhWW3AsWFis6... have some details on how it might work. (Also, learn the difference between a terminal multiplexer, and a terminal emulator :p)
  - irahul 15y ago
    > (Also, learn the difference between a terminal multiplexer, and a terminal emulator :p) What difference the name makes? If this shiny new terminal emulator is touting something which a terminal multiplexer already does, from a user perspective, his reply is legit.
    - shabble 15y ago
      A terminal multiplexer is a way to create and access multiple ttys from a single terminal (-emulator). Both of the most widely known (GNU Screen and tmux) are terminal-only apps - They require a terminal or terminal emulator to act as their user interface. Terminal emulators, as the name suggest, emulate terminals. Since most people don't tend to use dedicated VT100s any more, we use emulators like xterm, rxvt, Terminal.app, etc instead. A mux without an emulator to access it is pretty useless, whereas an emulator with some mux features can provide benefits not easily achievable with a standalone multiplexer. One example would be mouse-based text selection. Using vertical splits in tmux, and triple-clicking to select a full line will select the contents of both split regions, whereas a GUI app can limit it to one region. I'm sure there are plenty of other features.
      - irahul 15y ago
        > A terminal multiplexer is a way to create and access multiple ttys from a single terminal (-emulator). Thanks. I know that and use screen, and the post we are discussing mentions tmux, so he knows it as well. > whereas an emulator with some mux features can provide benefits not easily achievable with a standalone multiplexer. The op was being snarky but that was the whole point. iterm2 doesn't seem to be giving something which we(in a generic sense; I use linux and have nothing to do with iterm) want and aren't already doing in the current emulator/multiplexer setup. > One example would be mouse-based text selection. Using vertical splits in tmux, and triple-clicking to select a full line will select the contents of both split regions, whereas a GUI app can limit it to one region. I'm sure there are plenty of other features. I don't use tmux but that's the behavior in gnu screen vertical split as well.
mrpollo 15y ago
funny i've been using iTerm2 for a while now and didn't knew it had split windows built in, main reason i used it was the speed, and it allowed me to have different scheme of colors.
tvon 15y ago
For the curious, from what I've seen Terminal in Lion has 256 color support and (kind of shitty) full-screen support.
- tjarratt 15y ago
  I'd actually disagree - I think the fullscreen support is really good. What didn't you like about it?
  - tvon 15y ago
    I'm used to either Visor or iTerm providing "instant" full-screen terminal access, but taking apps full-screen in Lion seems to involve a nearly tedious animation. Granted, now that I think about it, I have seen a bug that makes Spaces-switching slow, so it's possible I'm just seeing the same thing in the full-screen animation. To put it another way, the result is fine, I just don't like the transition.
    - wahnfrieden 15y ago
      I wish there were a way to turn off most transitions in OSX. Anyone know some hack?
lloeki 15y ago
Different behavior for left/right alt is a must for me: - Left-Alt = Meta/+Esc - Right-Alt = OS X Alt I built an .inputrc/.zshrc so that text/word/line movements behave the same as in Cocoa text fields, like Ctrl+Left/Right and Alt+Left/Right. Had I done that under Terminal.app, I would have given up on being able to type characters like | (Alt+Shift+L) or ~ (Alt+N) on my French keyboard, which would make a terminal much, much less useless.

shabble 15y ago

The "Instant-Replay" (View->Go back in time) can be a handy little feature if you've ever wanted to look up something that turns out not to be in the scrollback because it was a full-screen app running on the alternate screen buffer, or whatever. It's also good for checking out /when/ something happened, after the fact. I've not used it much, but when I've needed to, it's been a lifesaver.

jrockway 15y ago

So tmux with a shiny 200x200 icon?

dmuino 15y ago
I use it with tmux. The main reason I use it is because of its full screen support and the unixy behavior for focus follows mouse, copy on select, middle button paste.
shabble 15y ago
One of the features slated for v1.1 or thereabouts is deep integration with tmux. http://code.google.com/p/iterm2/wiki/TmuxIntegration http://code.google.com/p/iterm2/wiki/TmuxIntegration and https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ABI0kqUUxoAjxhWW3AsWFis6bgvMoEbcTcA2N21ncmU/edit?hl=en&authkey=COHZn78P&pli=1 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ABI0kqUUxoAjxhWW3AsWFis6... have some details on how it might work. (Also, learn the difference between a terminal multiplexer, and a terminal emulator :p)
- irahul 15y ago
  > (Also, learn the difference between a terminal multiplexer, and a terminal emulator :p) What difference the name makes? If this shiny new terminal emulator is touting something which a terminal multiplexer already does, from a user perspective, his reply is legit.
  - shabble 15y ago
    A terminal multiplexer is a way to create and access multiple ttys from a single terminal (-emulator). Both of the most widely known (GNU Screen and tmux) are terminal-only apps - They require a terminal or terminal emulator to act as their user interface. Terminal emulators, as the name suggest, emulate terminals. Since most people don't tend to use dedicated VT100s any more, we use emulators like xterm, rxvt, Terminal.app, etc instead. A mux without an emulator to access it is pretty useless, whereas an emulator with some mux features can provide benefits not easily achievable with a standalone multiplexer. One example would be mouse-based text selection. Using vertical splits in tmux, and triple-clicking to select a full line will select the contents of both split regions, whereas a GUI app can limit it to one region. I'm sure there are plenty of other features.
    - irahul 15y ago
      > A terminal multiplexer is a way to create and access multiple ttys from a single terminal (-emulator). Thanks. I know that and use screen, and the post we are discussing mentions tmux, so he knows it as well. > whereas an emulator with some mux features can provide benefits not easily achievable with a standalone multiplexer. The op was being snarky but that was the whole point. iterm2 doesn't seem to be giving something which we(in a generic sense; I use linux and have nothing to do with iterm) want and aren't already doing in the current emulator/multiplexer setup. > One example would be mouse-based text selection. Using vertical splits in tmux, and triple-clicking to select a full line will select the contents of both split regions, whereas a GUI app can limit it to one region. I'm sure there are plenty of other features. I don't use tmux but that's the behavior in gnu screen vertical split as well.

mrpollo 15y ago

funny i've been using iTerm2 for a while now and didn't knew it had split windows built in, main reason i used it was the speed, and it allowed me to have different scheme of colors.

tvon 15y ago

For the curious, from what I've seen Terminal in Lion has 256 color support and (kind of shitty) full-screen support.

tjarratt 15y ago
I'd actually disagree - I think the fullscreen support is really good. What didn't you like about it?
- tvon 15y ago
  I'm used to either Visor or iTerm providing "instant" full-screen terminal access, but taking apps full-screen in Lion seems to involve a nearly tedious animation. Granted, now that I think about it, I have seen a bug that makes Spaces-switching slow, so it's possible I'm just seeing the same thing in the full-screen animation. To put it another way, the result is fine, I just don't like the transition.
  - wahnfrieden 15y ago
    I wish there were a way to turn off most transitions in OSX. Anyone know some hack?

lloeki 15y ago

Different behavior for left/right alt is a must for me: - Left-Alt = Meta/+Esc - Right-Alt = OS X Alt I built an .inputrc/.zshrc so that text/word/line movements behave the same as in Cocoa text fields, like Ctrl+Left/Right and Alt+Left/Right. Had I done that under Terminal.app, I would have given up on being able to type characters like | (Alt+Shift+L) or ~ (Alt+N) on my French keyboard, which would make a terminal much, much less useless.