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It has a real "snitches get stiches" vibe to it. You have no expectation of privacy if you announce (let alone advocate for, or instruct how-to) behaviour agai

It has a real "snitches get stiches" vibe to it. You have no expectation of privacy if you announce (let alone advocate for, or instruct how-to) behaviour against public health policy _during_a_pandemic_. The contrast with people who have been working hard to match people with appointments couldn't be more stark.

jollybean 5y ago
It does indeed have that vibe, and irrespective of what actually happened - it makes him look bad. If he was indeed talking about inappropriately skipping the line, then this guy is a bad actor. But I should point out that we don't have any idea - the situation could have been very misrepresented - and he could have done nothing wrong. But given the public information ... this Tweet is going to come of 'Snitches Get Stitches' in a 'lacking in self awareness' kind of way, as opposed to the 'I was slandered and misrepresented publicly, and that can be very damaging, I'm glad this issue is behind us" kind of way. Why are adults in the US using Twitter/GIF memes instead of finding thoughtful and mature ways of communicating this stuff? I don't like this evolution.
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- nine_k 5y ago
  > Why are adults in the US using Twitter/GIF memes instead of finding thoughtful and mature ways This way they evoke more emotion, so, more of the unthinking (feeling-based) approval: retweets, reposts, just being remembered. When it's funny, it makes people happier along the way, when it's angry, it may make people also feel anger, but a righteous, just anger. It's a potent drug which is very hard to stop taking recreationally, and also for a just cause. Not as a poster, but most importantly as a reader.
  - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
    Memes pack more information and context into less content. We're basically going through a mini printing press style communications revolution right now. Before (say 1999) you had print which was cheap and audiovisual which was expensive/time consuming. Now thanks to tech audiovisual content is something the masses can use to communicate and it's affecting culture greatly.
    - TeMPOraL 5y ago
      I almost agree. I think it's not information and context that's being packed, it's emotional load. As any writer or poet knows, words are handles to emotions. Choose a slightly different word, and your readers will tend to feel very differently after reading a line containing, otherwise, the same information. It's a wetware equivalent of RPC API. Memes are this, but taken up to 11. They transmit a much more complex and powerful emotional payload, in readily digestible form. Like in this case, I could write a whole paragraph listing the kind of emotions that little GIF communicated. Calm distancing, depreciation, disrespect, feeling safe, ... Written out as words, it wouldn't fit in a Tweet, and wouldn't be as powerful a message.
    - jollybean 5y ago
      'Images' can communicate some things, like emotions, in a better way. But 'memes' are things which are pushed onto situation that probably call for more nuance i.e. 80% of the 'Karen' memes I see are not actually 'Karen' memes. But they don't necessarily communicate 'more' information, and more often than not, they're just used to put an emotive 'playround' spin on something. If the issue is important, words are almost always a better choice. Irrespective of what happened, a GIF response to something semi-serious I think is bad form. If people aspire to assume responsibility for some important thing ... like processing payments ... then they can assume responsibility for making basic, conscientious communications.
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    - jachee 5y ago
      “Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.”
- rcurry 5y ago
  I kind of miss the old days when I could go through life without ever knowing that some guy in North Carolina got in a fight with his brother-in-law over a borrowed lawnmower. My solution is to stay off social media altogether.
- AlexCoventry 5y ago
  It's hard to pack thoughtful and mature communication into 280 characters.
TheAdamAndChe 5y ago
At this point in the US, anyone who wants to get a vaccine can get one. That makes getting it a personal choice. Then you have this person try to damage Ycombinator because one of their founders spoke internally about the matter. Absolutely tactless. You'd expect future founders to be able to consider potential repercussions for biting the hand that's serving them.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > At this point in the US, anyone who wants to get a vaccine can get one. That makes getting it a personal choice. But since this all happened in March, when not anyone who wanted to get the vaccine could get any, your comment is irrelevant.
- Hamuko 5y ago
  >At this point in the US, anyone who wanted to get a vaccine can get one. Pretty sure when this actually happened, vaccines were not actually open to anyone that just wanted one.
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  - mynameisvlad 5y ago
    Bingo. He uses the announcement of vaccines opening up to all in May as "proof" that it was allowed, but I can't see anything in the announcement that indicates that.
  - tingletech 5y ago
    that site was well known locally at the time to accept anyone who walked up
    - CRConrad 5y ago
      Perhaps... But perhaps not everybody was supposed to go walk up in the first place: https://twitter.com/SarahBelleLin/status/1370071520953835520 https://twitter.com/SarahBelleLin/status/1370071520953835520
TechBro8615 5y ago
It increases my respect for YC knowing that they would kick a member out of the club for airing another's dirty laundry.
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angry_octet 5y ago
Postscript: the person in question states that this was an open site with no restrictions, and I am pleased to read that. However, it is still unclear if this was because of a special campaign to reach at risk populations (like undocumented people) and I can't help but think there was a naive element of playing the system here. Regardless, they or YC should have addressed this publically at the time, rather than waiting and staying silent. The YC brand is damaged because we don't know if they acted ethically, or enforced the omerta. Everyone's reputation is taking an acid bath because of unclear communication.

jollybean 5y ago

It does indeed have that vibe, and irrespective of what actually happened - it makes him look bad. If he was indeed talking about inappropriately skipping the line, then this guy is a bad actor. But I should point out that we don't have any idea - the situation could have been very misrepresented - and he could have done nothing wrong. But given the public information ... this Tweet is going to come of 'Snitches Get Stitches' in a 'lacking in self awareness' kind of way, as opposed to the 'I was slandered and misrepresented publicly, and that can be very damaging, I'm glad this issue is behind us" kind of way. Why are adults in the US using Twitter/GIF memes instead of finding thoughtful and mature ways of communicating this stuff? I don't like this evolution.

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nine_k 5y ago
> Why are adults in the US using Twitter/GIF memes instead of finding thoughtful and mature ways This way they evoke more emotion, so, more of the unthinking (feeling-based) approval: retweets, reposts, just being remembered. When it's funny, it makes people happier along the way, when it's angry, it may make people also feel anger, but a righteous, just anger. It's a potent drug which is very hard to stop taking recreationally, and also for a just cause. Not as a poster, but most importantly as a reader.
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago
  Memes pack more information and context into less content. We're basically going through a mini printing press style communications revolution right now. Before (say 1999) you had print which was cheap and audiovisual which was expensive/time consuming. Now thanks to tech audiovisual content is something the masses can use to communicate and it's affecting culture greatly.
  - TeMPOraL 5y ago
    I almost agree. I think it's not information and context that's being packed, it's emotional load. As any writer or poet knows, words are handles to emotions. Choose a slightly different word, and your readers will tend to feel very differently after reading a line containing, otherwise, the same information. It's a wetware equivalent of RPC API. Memes are this, but taken up to 11. They transmit a much more complex and powerful emotional payload, in readily digestible form. Like in this case, I could write a whole paragraph listing the kind of emotions that little GIF communicated. Calm distancing, depreciation, disrespect, feeling safe, ... Written out as words, it wouldn't fit in a Tweet, and wouldn't be as powerful a message.
  - jollybean 5y ago
    'Images' can communicate some things, like emotions, in a better way. But 'memes' are things which are pushed onto situation that probably call for more nuance i.e. 80% of the 'Karen' memes I see are not actually 'Karen' memes. But they don't necessarily communicate 'more' information, and more often than not, they're just used to put an emotive 'playround' spin on something. If the issue is important, words are almost always a better choice. Irrespective of what happened, a GIF response to something semi-serious I think is bad form. If people aspire to assume responsibility for some important thing ... like processing payments ... then they can assume responsibility for making basic, conscientious communications.
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  - jachee 5y ago
    “Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.”
rcurry 5y ago
I kind of miss the old days when I could go through life without ever knowing that some guy in North Carolina got in a fight with his brother-in-law over a borrowed lawnmower. My solution is to stay off social media altogether.
AlexCoventry 5y ago
It's hard to pack thoughtful and mature communication into 280 characters.

TheAdamAndChe 5y ago

At this point in the US, anyone who wants to get a vaccine can get one. That makes getting it a personal choice. Then you have this person try to damage Ycombinator because one of their founders spoke internally about the matter. Absolutely tactless. You'd expect future founders to be able to consider potential repercussions for biting the hand that's serving them.

CRConrad 5y ago
> At this point in the US, anyone who wants to get a vaccine can get one. That makes getting it a personal choice. But since this all happened in March, when not anyone who wanted to get the vaccine could get any, your comment is irrelevant.
Hamuko 5y ago
>At this point in the US, anyone who wanted to get a vaccine can get one. Pretty sure when this actually happened, vaccines were not actually open to anyone that just wanted one.
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- mynameisvlad 5y ago
  Bingo. He uses the announcement of vaccines opening up to all in May as "proof" that it was allowed, but I can't see anything in the announcement that indicates that.
- tingletech 5y ago
  that site was well known locally at the time to accept anyone who walked up
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    Perhaps... But perhaps not everybody was supposed to go walk up in the first place: https://twitter.com/SarahBelleLin/status/1370071520953835520 https://twitter.com/SarahBelleLin/status/1370071520953835520

TechBro8615 5y ago

It increases my respect for YC knowing that they would kick a member out of the club for airing another's dirty laundry.

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angry_octet 5y ago

Postscript: the person in question states that this was an open site with no restrictions, and I am pleased to read that. However, it is still unclear if this was because of a special campaign to reach at risk populations (like undocumented people) and I can't help but think there was a naive element of playing the system here. Regardless, they or YC should have addressed this publically at the time, rather than waiting and staying silent. The YC brand is damaged because we don't know if they acted ethically, or enforced the omerta. Everyone's reputation is taking an acid bath because of unclear communication.