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We aren't, you need to be more specific. > I have to rebuild the table layout The "layout" meaning the visual appearance, or the markup? There IS a "css equi

by xkyf 5y ago

We aren't, you need to be more specific. > I have to rebuild the table layout The "layout" meaning the visual appearance, or the markup? There IS a "css equivalent of colspan/rowspan for table-layouts," put another way--a way to make a column or row (<td> or <tr>) appear to span multiple columns or rows. It can be achieved with flexbox or with CSS grid. You don't need to change anything about the markup (HTML) to make this work. > to make it responsive "Responsive" as in "responds to the size of the viewport?" The colspan and rowspan HTML attributes do not do that. They have the same value regardless of the size of the viewport. CSS (with media queries) can respond. > the column-span property is unrelated to tables Incorrect, it is certainly related, and works there just fine (along with other in-flow block-level elements).

asddubs 5y ago
layout meaning i have to change the display type from table/table-row/table-cell to something else to recreate the way the table is structured. if there was a colspan/rowspan equivalent, i would not have to do this, and would the process would be much simpler. Yes, I know there are workarounds using flexbox, grid, etc. but as I've said before, it would be nice if i didn't have to reconstruct the whole thing in css just becuase there is no rowspan/colspan for table-layouts in css. there is no equivalent of colspan/rowspan in css, as in not some convoluted workaround but doing exactly the same thing only via css instead of a html attribute. I don't really think I've been that unclear about this being what I want to be added. I was not talking about changing the html, but turning a table into a grid is more than just doing table {display:grid;}, you have to rebuild the whole structure, i.e. layout of the table using css. if i could use rowspan (as in actual literal rowspan not some other workaround), i would not have to do this. yes responsive as in hide one or multiple rows of table cells on some screen resolutions to make things fit better. as I've previously said. >Incorrect, it is certainly related, and works there just fine (along with other in-flow block-level elements). it does not manipulate the amount of table rows a table-cell-display element takes up.
- xkyf 5y ago
  > doing exactly the same thing only via css instead of a html attribute Yes! What's wrong with this approach? We have a lot of old HTML attributes that were used for styling that have been replaced by CSS. > Yes, I know there are workarounds using flexbox, grid, etc It's not a "workaround!" You're controlling the appearance using the styling language. What's wrong with this example? https://jsbin.com/wexisiyamo https://jsbin.com/wexisiyamo > "responsive" as in hide rows of table cells on some resolutions to make things fit better HTML attributes (like colspan) don't do this! CSS does. > it does not manipulate the amount of table rows a table-cell-display element takes up I know, I mentioned it before :) it's related though. With HTML attributes the layout is tied to your markup. Like you said it's more than table {display:grid;} but is adding .colspan-2 a lot more cruft than adding [colspan=2]?
  - asddubs 5y ago
    i feel like you are being willfully obtuse at this point. All I want is two new css properties that mirror the behaviour of the colspan/rowspan html tag attributes. for things that are display:table-cell; (i.e. <td> tags). So that you can do light table manipulation without having to use grid or flexbox, which adds extra cruft that would be made redundant in situations where you want to do something very simple like hide a row. One last time, i understand this is possible with a whole bunch of css to recreate the entire structure of the table using grid, but if we had these two css properties, you would not need to do all this. it would be more convenient. If you still do not understand what I was trying to say, I'm sorry, I give up. This conversation has started to genuinely frustrate me at this point.

by xkyf 5y ago

asddubs 5y ago

layout meaning i have to change the display type from table/table-row/table-cell to something else to recreate the way the table is structured. if there was a colspan/rowspan equivalent, i would not have to do this, and would the process would be much simpler. Yes, I know there are workarounds using flexbox, grid, etc. but as I've said before, it would be nice if i didn't have to reconstruct the whole thing in css just becuase there is no rowspan/colspan for table-layouts in css. there is no equivalent of colspan/rowspan in css, as in not some convoluted workaround but doing exactly the same thing only via css instead of a html attribute. I don't really think I've been that unclear about this being what I want to be added. I was not talking about changing the html, but turning a table into a grid is more than just doing table {display:grid;}, you have to rebuild the whole structure, i.e. layout of the table using css. if i could use rowspan (as in actual literal rowspan not some other workaround), i would not have to do this. yes responsive as in hide one or multiple rows of table cells on some screen resolutions to make things fit better. as I've previously said. >Incorrect, it is certainly related, and works there just fine (along with other in-flow block-level elements). it does not manipulate the amount of table rows a table-cell-display element takes up.

xkyf 5y ago
> doing exactly the same thing only via css instead of a html attribute Yes! What's wrong with this approach? We have a lot of old HTML attributes that were used for styling that have been replaced by CSS. > Yes, I know there are workarounds using flexbox, grid, etc It's not a "workaround!" You're controlling the appearance using the styling language. What's wrong with this example? https://jsbin.com/wexisiyamo https://jsbin.com/wexisiyamo > "responsive" as in hide rows of table cells on some resolutions to make things fit better HTML attributes (like colspan) don't do this! CSS does. > it does not manipulate the amount of table rows a table-cell-display element takes up I know, I mentioned it before :) it's related though. With HTML attributes the layout is tied to your markup. Like you said it's more than table {display:grid;} but is adding .colspan-2 a lot more cruft than adding [colspan=2]?
- asddubs 5y ago
  i feel like you are being willfully obtuse at this point. All I want is two new css properties that mirror the behaviour of the colspan/rowspan html tag attributes. for things that are display:table-cell; (i.e. <td> tags). So that you can do light table manipulation without having to use grid or flexbox, which adds extra cruft that would be made redundant in situations where you want to do something very simple like hide a row. One last time, i understand this is possible with a whole bunch of css to recreate the entire structure of the table using grid, but if we had these two css properties, you would not need to do all this. it would be more convenient. If you still do not understand what I was trying to say, I'm sorry, I give up. This conversation has started to genuinely frustrate me at this point.