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>Senior US administration officials briefed on the findings of the report said that the majority of more than 120 incidents over the past 20 years did not deriv

by swebs 5y ago

>Senior US administration officials briefed on the findings of the report said that the majority of more than 120 incidents over the past 20 years did not derive from any US military or other advanced US government technology, according to The New York Times. So they have no evidence that it's aliens, no evidence that it's US military technology, and no evidence that it's foreign technology. In other words nothing new has been discovered and we're still at square 1. Not really news, but I guess it's good to keep us updated.

JumpCrisscross 5y ago
> nothing new has been discovered and we're still at square 1 If there is even a shred of evidence these are not sensor artefacts, that's square 2. It means we are contending with real objects. Maybe not flying ones, but objects nonetheless. That merits attention. (And funding, which I imagine is the point of all this.)
- colordrops 5y ago
  The pilots in the tic tac video visually confirmed the physical objects, even talked about shape and color. That's certainly more than a shred of evidence.
  - JumpCrisscross 5y ago
    > pilots in the tic tac video visually confirmed the physical objects, even talked about shape and color Visual confirmation is helpful. It doesn't rule out atmospheric effects. Radar is the missing piece. If we have a radar hit, something interesting is going on.
    - danlugo92 5y ago
      There's been (according to them) loads of radar hits.
    - king_magic 5y ago
      Multiple radar confirmations of the tic tac did exist. That’s why they went out there (and ended up seeing it visually, about 50 feet above the surface of the ocean, with the ocean churning beneath it). That’s extremely interesting and frankly I cannot think of anything except for maybe sophon-level technology (fictional concept from the Three Body Problem trilogy) that could spoof both visual human sight while concurrently spoofing multiple sensors. I’m skeptical as hell about stuff like this, but I’m really struggling to see how this could be anything that could have been produced/faked by human-level technology.

by swebs 5y ago

JumpCrisscross 5y ago

> nothing new has been discovered and we're still at square 1 If there is even a shred of evidence these are not sensor artefacts, that's square 2. It means we are contending with real objects. Maybe not flying ones, but objects nonetheless. That merits attention. (And funding, which I imagine is the point of all this.)

colordrops 5y ago
The pilots in the tic tac video visually confirmed the physical objects, even talked about shape and color. That's certainly more than a shred of evidence.
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago
  > pilots in the tic tac video visually confirmed the physical objects, even talked about shape and color Visual confirmation is helpful. It doesn't rule out atmospheric effects. Radar is the missing piece. If we have a radar hit, something interesting is going on.
  - danlugo92 5y ago
    There's been (according to them) loads of radar hits.
  - king_magic 5y ago
    Multiple radar confirmations of the tic tac did exist. That’s why they went out there (and ended up seeing it visually, about 50 feet above the surface of the ocean, with the ocean churning beneath it). That’s extremely interesting and frankly I cannot think of anything except for maybe sophon-level technology (fictional concept from the Three Body Problem trilogy) that could spoof both visual human sight while concurrently spoofing multiple sensors. I’m skeptical as hell about stuff like this, but I’m really struggling to see how this could be anything that could have been produced/faked by human-level technology.