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Hmmm, DuckDuckGo image search shows some people standing next to tanks but not the tank man photo. I guess it makes sense since DDG uses bing for their search

Hmmm, DuckDuckGo image search shows some people standing next to tanks but not the tank man photo. I guess it makes sense since DDG uses bing for their search tech but it's pretty disappointing that you can get uncensored searches or privacy but not both.

jeroenhd 5y ago
Right now, an image search for "tank man" returns the tank man photo a whole bunch of times, but only because news articles about Microsoft banning the term use the photo in their headers. The problem still hasn't been resolved and it probably won't be any time soon. The CCP influence on Microsoft is clear; they cannot be trusted to run a search engine anymore than Baidu can.
kissgyorgy 5y ago
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tank+man&t=hc&va=u&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tank+man&t=hc&va=u&iar=images&iax=...
ucosty 5y ago
I just get "Sorry, no results here." on DDG
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
  Unless you have moderate safe search on, in which case it says that the results were blocked by safe search.
Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago
For me, ddg shows the image in main search, but not in image search.
toxik 5y ago
So disappointing that a search engine like DuckDuckGo would fall prey to this sort of censorship.
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- TaylorAlexander 5y ago
  DDG uses Bing for results I’ve heard? So they’re falling prey to the censorship of their provider.
  - toxik 5y ago
    Right, which is an implementation detail to some extent
    - KirillPanov 5y ago
      It's not an "implementation detail". It's a problem with the fact that the Internet has only two functioning crawlers remaining.
      - frosted-flakes 5y ago
        Don't forget Yandex.
      - mananaysiempre 5y ago
        Three, arguably—Yandex still exists and is generally pretty decent in addition to being the best at dealing with Russian morphology (although relying on it after Segalovich’s death seems foolish).
- hn8788 5y ago
  I don't think they did. I searched for Tank Man, and the first result is the wikipedia article, followed by nothing but articles about him and the Tiananmen Square Massacre. The images section seems to be the only one that's acting weird, because if I search for "Tank Man China" it shows a bunch of pictures of him.
- InitialLastName 5y ago
  Doesn't DDG mostly rely on Bing for its results? So a result that's suspiciously missing from Bing would be likely to also be missing from DDG, unless their indexing and crawling is more comprehensive than I thought.
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frakkingcylons 5y ago
If you search for tank man on DDG, the very first result is the Wikipedia article about said individual and the Tiananmen Square massacre. If they were intentionally trying to censor the search results, why would they only censor images?
- 0xcde4c3db 5y ago
  I don't think DDG is trying to censor results (nor that the parent post is suggesting that), I think they're inheriting censorship from their upstream sources, which aren't the same for different search types (web, images, news, etc.). Interestingly, it seems that even starting to type the "man" in "tank man" will result in no suggestions at all, even though the web results seem reasonable.
thebigspacefuck 5y ago
I tried turning safe search off and got some images of Tank Man

jeroenhd 5y ago

Right now, an image search for "tank man" returns the tank man photo a whole bunch of times, but only because news articles about Microsoft banning the term use the photo in their headers. The problem still hasn't been resolved and it probably won't be any time soon. The CCP influence on Microsoft is clear; they cannot be trusted to run a search engine anymore than Baidu can.

kissgyorgy 5y ago

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tank+man&t=hc&va=u&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tank+man&t=hc&va=u&iar=images&iax=...

ucosty 5y ago

I just get "Sorry, no results here." on DDG

9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
Unless you have moderate safe search on, in which case it says that the results were blocked by safe search.

Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago

For me, ddg shows the image in main search, but not in image search.

toxik 5y ago

So disappointing that a search engine like DuckDuckGo would fall prey to this sort of censorship.

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TaylorAlexander 5y ago
DDG uses Bing for results I’ve heard? So they’re falling prey to the censorship of their provider.
- toxik 5y ago
  Right, which is an implementation detail to some extent
  - KirillPanov 5y ago
    It's not an "implementation detail". It's a problem with the fact that the Internet has only two functioning crawlers remaining.
    - frosted-flakes 5y ago
      Don't forget Yandex.
    - mananaysiempre 5y ago
      Three, arguably—Yandex still exists and is generally pretty decent in addition to being the best at dealing with Russian morphology (although relying on it after Segalovich’s death seems foolish).
hn8788 5y ago
I don't think they did. I searched for Tank Man, and the first result is the wikipedia article, followed by nothing but articles about him and the Tiananmen Square Massacre. The images section seems to be the only one that's acting weird, because if I search for "Tank Man China" it shows a bunch of pictures of him.
InitialLastName 5y ago
Doesn't DDG mostly rely on Bing for its results? So a result that's suspiciously missing from Bing would be likely to also be missing from DDG, unless their indexing and crawling is more comprehensive than I thought.

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frakkingcylons 5y ago

If you search for tank man on DDG, the very first result is the Wikipedia article about said individual and the Tiananmen Square massacre. If they were intentionally trying to censor the search results, why would they only censor images?

0xcde4c3db 5y ago
I don't think DDG is trying to censor results (nor that the parent post is suggesting that), I think they're inheriting censorship from their upstream sources, which aren't the same for different search types (web, images, news, etc.). Interestingly, it seems that even starting to type the "man" in "tank man" will result in no suggestions at all, even though the web results seem reasonable.

thebigspacefuck 5y ago

I tried turning safe search off and got some images of Tank Man