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Is anyone actually surprised? Serious question.

by azth 5y ago

Covzire 5y ago
That the political left would capitalize and exercise their power based on a false narrative that there was an insurrection and ban a former POTUS from their platform which is a de facto monopoly of the American public square? Not at all.
- wnevets 5y ago
  oh you poor soul.
minimaxir 5y ago
The biggest surprise is that it's a temporary ban instead of a permanent one. (and a temporary ban that ends at a coincidentally convenient time should he run in 2024)
- t0mbstone 5y ago
  Yeah... That's very suspicious, not gonna lie.
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  People are not immutable. It would set a bad precedent to make the ban permanent, versus revisiting and re-evaluating the decision in the future. This person likely won’t change, but the process should still be reasonable depending on it’s expected lifecycle and the variety of folks who are going to be evaluated by it.
  - jackson1442 5y ago
    Right, but a two-year suspension is essentially unheard of in the tech world. Generally temporary suspensions last up to one month then just go permanent with virtually no appeals. This is still special treatment. If you or I were banned from Facebook, unless you're good friends with a staff member, we would likely be permanently banned.
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    - dragonwriter 5y ago
      > This is still special treatment. If you or I were banned from Facebook, unless you're good friends with a staff member, we would likely be permanently banned. Since this is supposedly the maximum penalty available for the reason for the suspension under the new framework, that seems unlikely unless it was for some reason not covered by the same rule. Now, it may be that the most likely reason for bans are different than this one, but treating different actions differently isn’t special treatment.
- Qw3r7 5y ago
  Im really not surprised at all. As the other individual mentioned, its convenient for 2024 purposes. And its the best thing for the GOP if they do let him run, so as he cannot do any more damage of what is left. What a crazy world.
- AnimalMuppet 5y ago
  That looks almost like "he can't drive traffic for us anymore, but in two years he might".
Traster 5y ago
Yes, I am actually surprised that Facebook decided that the response to Trump undermining the 2020 election was to ban him... until the run up to the 2024 election.
donohoe 5y ago
Yes - in that I worried they’d not do the right thing

Is anyone actually surprised? Serious question.

by azth 5y ago

Is anyone actually surprised? Serious question.

That the political left would capitalize and exercise their power based on a false narrative that there was an insurrection and ban a former POTUS from their platform which is a de facto monopoly of the American public square? Not at all.

wnevets 5y ago
oh you poor soul.

minimaxir 5y ago

The biggest surprise is that it's a temporary ban instead of a permanent one. (and a temporary ban that ends at a coincidentally convenient time should he run in 2024)

t0mbstone 5y ago
Yeah... That's very suspicious, not gonna lie.
toomuchtodo 5y ago
People are not immutable. It would set a bad precedent to make the ban permanent, versus revisiting and re-evaluating the decision in the future. This person likely won’t change, but the process should still be reasonable depending on it’s expected lifecycle and the variety of folks who are going to be evaluated by it.
- jackson1442 5y ago
  Right, but a two-year suspension is essentially unheard of in the tech world. Generally temporary suspensions last up to one month then just go permanent with virtually no appeals. This is still special treatment. If you or I were banned from Facebook, unless you're good friends with a staff member, we would likely be permanently banned.
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  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > This is still special treatment. If you or I were banned from Facebook, unless you're good friends with a staff member, we would likely be permanently banned. Since this is supposedly the maximum penalty available for the reason for the suspension under the new framework, that seems unlikely unless it was for some reason not covered by the same rule. Now, it may be that the most likely reason for bans are different than this one, but treating different actions differently isn’t special treatment.
Qw3r7 5y ago
Im really not surprised at all. As the other individual mentioned, its convenient for 2024 purposes. And its the best thing for the GOP if they do let him run, so as he cannot do any more damage of what is left. What a crazy world.
AnimalMuppet 5y ago
That looks almost like "he can't drive traffic for us anymore, but in two years he might".

Traster 5y ago

Yes, I am actually surprised that Facebook decided that the response to Trump undermining the 2020 election was to ban him... until the run up to the 2024 election.

donohoe 5y ago

Yes - in that I worried they’d not do the right thing