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This shouldn't have been flagged. My understanding is that posts which comment on current events from a tech perspective are 100% within the bounds of acceptab
by toomanyrichies 5y ago
This shouldn't have been flagged. My understanding is that posts which comment on current events from a tech perspective are 100% within the bounds of acceptable behavior here.
- Dig1t 5y agoThey totally are, threads discussing such things make it to the top of the front page _all_ the time. It's very suspect that this thread is flagged.
- lettergram 5y agoEverything "controversial" or anti-narrative since October 2020 I've posted has been flagged. Frankly, I think it's mostly bots or people being paid to do so. IMO HN should be changing it's flag policy.
- dang 5y agoThis isn't remotely close to true. I think you may be falling prey to the notice-dislike bias, which unfortunately leads to false feelings of generality. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20dislike%20notice&sort=byDate&type=story&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20false%20feelings%20of%20generality&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
- lettergram 5y agoThat’s fair, could also be the topics im weighing in on are more prone. From personal experience, I’m experiencing flags like I’ve never seen before. I have several IRL fiends who no longer post or visit HN because of it (because reasonable discussion is being disappeared). I’d be curious to know the attrition rate after flags. Also if the number of flags for long term members have increased. The data’s all public (I think), so I can do the analysis. But I find it interesting.
- dang 5y agoI'd be happy to look up specific numbers if it's something I can do quickly. Unfortunately today has been a tornado and I haven't quite landed yet.
- lettergram 5y agoI think I speak for all of us, when I say we appreciate all you do!
- dang 5y agoIt's routine for threads discussing such things to make it to the front page and routine for them to get flagged. This is the cycle of life on HN. And rightly so: otherwise the front page would consist entirely of the sensational/hottest topics and flamewars.
- xvector 5y agoVery suspicious. I suspect employees are flagging this post, but my suspicions aren’t really founded. Is there a way to unflag?
- iso1631 5y agoNormally @dang turns up to clarify and fix things Posts are flagged if a certain number of users flag them, not just mods/admins.
- xvector 5y agoIs it possible to ban all users that flagged this post? Or at the very least permanently disable their downvoting and flagging power?
- iso1631 5y agoThere was another submission about tank man, just a CNN article on it. That submission has been marked as a dupe, despite the link not appearing in a recent search. I think users can flag, but not mark as dupe
- dvfjsdhgfv 5y agoI'd like to hear their explanation first. There might be people who honestly believe that no political content should on HN.
- Brian_K_White 5y agoTo allow that rationale, you'd want to look over the commenting & voting history of anyone claiming that. I bet they all turn out to have funny definitions of what counts and what doesn't.
- happytoexplain 5y agoThat's very disproportionate (but I think it's ridiculous that this is flagged).
- Qub3d 5y ago@Dang was this a user or a mod action?
- threatofrain 5y agoDang is probably on top of the situation given that another tank man post was marked as dupe, which requires admin powers.
- dang 5y ago[flagged] on submissions nearly always means users flagged it. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#flag https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#flag. Edit: details of what happened are here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397230 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397230
- ______- 5y agohttps://lite.qwant.com/?q=tank+man https://lite.qwant.com/?q=tank+man
- partiallypro 5y agoThe flagging is clearly unfair...so why hasn't it been removed? A lot of CCP fans out there it seems.
- dang 5y agoI've removed the flags now. That last bit breaks the site guidelines. Can you please review them and stick to the rules? We'd appreciate it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- deleted 5y ago[deleted]
- mongol 5y agoDisappointed in the flagging too
- _0ffh 5y agoWhatever happened to the "vouch" option? I wanted to, but it seems to be gone. :-( [Ed. I see, flagged but not dead, so no vouching...]
- happytoexplain 5y agoIt only appears once the article is actually dead (as far as I've experienced). I have no idea why that's the case.
- toomanyrichies 5y agoSo until it gets flagged enough to become dead, it's in a kind of flag purgatory and can't be vouched for? Separately, I'd be curious to know what systems are in place to deal with bad-faith flagging. There doesn't seem to be any mention of this in the Hacker News FAQ. Not saying that's what happened here, but it seems like a situation that would come up sooner or later.
- itchyjunk 5y agoSorry for speculation but if the upvote to comments ratio are off, they might get auto flagged too, right?
- swiley 5y agoI wonder if it's due to the currently popular association between proponents of free speech and Nazis.
- happytoexplain 5y agoThis is an exaggeration.
- dang 5y agoDetails of what happened are here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397230 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397230. Since people are asking "if all that is true, why does it still say [flagged]", I've turned off flags on the above post now.