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Thankfully the "DTrace expert" didn't turn out to be Bryan Cantrill. He's a big fan of Scott McNealy's engineering principles for Sun Microsystems, which includ

Thankfully the "DTrace expert" didn't turn out to be Bryan Cantrill. He's a big fan of Scott McNealy's engineering principles for Sun Microsystems, which includes "Don't Cheat", and the behaviour in this story very much seems not in the spirit of that principle. I wonder if this bit of 'cheating' ended up getting someone at Sun in trouble.

sam_lowry_ 5y ago
You do not know.
- dijit 5y ago
  Given that Brenden and Bryan worked together closely and seemed to be very fond of each other; and the article mentions that "the VIP may not have known" I think it's safe to assume it was not Bryan. As if it had been Bryan, Brenden would have been more sure.
- apendleton 5y ago
  To the extent that the two of them have disagreed about things, they don't seem to have any issue saying so publicly, referring to the other by name: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16382456 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16382456
- dswalter 5y ago
  It feels like Cantrill being a creator of DTrace earns at least the credibility to be called a 'DTrace expert' without quotation marks.
  - cryptonector 5y ago
    Specifically: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27391764 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27391764
- nosequel 5y ago
  Brendan already replied to another comment saying he doesn't remember the VIP's name.
- bcantrill 5y ago
  It definitely (obviously?) wasn't me. I had introduced Brendan to DTrace in 2004 (over e-mail) when I discovered his earlier psio work[0] (which was based on TNF, a tracing facility that predated DTrace that was better than nothing -- but not by much). I knew that he was going to be very excited to learn about DTrace, and it wasn't long before he was delighting us with some really creative scripts. (His shellsnoop.d[1], in particular, really got people's attention as to what what could do with DTrace!) While he and I had corresponded a bunch, ironically the first time I met Brendan was in 2005, it was in Sydney, and I was on a tour of Australia talking about Solaris 10 -- but it followed this incident by several months (if I recall correctly). I was excited to meet Brendan, and he was excited to meet me -- especially so after his poor experience several months prior! [0] http://www.brendangregg.com/psio.html http://www.brendangregg.com/psio.html [1] http://www.brendangregg.com/DTrace/shellsnoop.d http://www.brendangregg.com/DTrace/shellsnoop.d

sam_lowry_ 5y ago

You do not know.

dijit 5y ago
Given that Brenden and Bryan worked together closely and seemed to be very fond of each other; and the article mentions that "the VIP may not have known" I think it's safe to assume it was not Bryan. As if it had been Bryan, Brenden would have been more sure.
apendleton 5y ago
To the extent that the two of them have disagreed about things, they don't seem to have any issue saying so publicly, referring to the other by name: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16382456 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16382456
dswalter 5y ago
It feels like Cantrill being a creator of DTrace earns at least the credibility to be called a 'DTrace expert' without quotation marks.
- cryptonector 5y ago
  Specifically: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27391764 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27391764
nosequel 5y ago
Brendan already replied to another comment saying he doesn't remember the VIP's name.
bcantrill 5y ago
It definitely (obviously?) wasn't me. I had introduced Brendan to DTrace in 2004 (over e-mail) when I discovered his earlier psio work[0] (which was based on TNF, a tracing facility that predated DTrace that was better than nothing -- but not by much). I knew that he was going to be very excited to learn about DTrace, and it wasn't long before he was delighting us with some really creative scripts. (His shellsnoop.d[1], in particular, really got people's attention as to what what could do with DTrace!) While he and I had corresponded a bunch, ironically the first time I met Brendan was in 2005, it was in Sydney, and I was on a tour of Australia talking about Solaris 10 -- but it followed this incident by several months (if I recall correctly). I was excited to meet Brendan, and he was excited to meet me -- especially so after his poor experience several months prior! [0] http://www.brendangregg.com/psio.html http://www.brendangregg.com/psio.html [1] http://www.brendangregg.com/DTrace/shellsnoop.d http://www.brendangregg.com/DTrace/shellsnoop.d