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> It's still not clear to me what the conflict of interest is. The amount of money is kind of important, because it gives you an idea of the level of involvemen

> It's still not clear to me what the conflict of interest is. The amount of money is kind of important, because it gives you an idea of the level of involvement. As I said, $600K over 5 years is very little money, it basically makes sure you get the results of whatever research is already being done. Maybe he's covering his own ass? Maybe he's trying to protect gain of function research? He was, after all, the most vocal proponent that the risks with gain of function research were worth it. [0] > The top scientist in the country, with several Ph.Ds, 50 years of experience in a both public leadership and an incredibly complicated branch of biology, is making roughly what a staff engineer at a FAANG company makes...and you are complaining? That's the bargain of the century. He's a sick fuck for actually sticking it out - he could have bailed and consulted on "return to the office" for all the big tech and entertainment companies. He is 80 years old, working insane hours, and probably would have made more money in 6 months than he has in his whole public career from a really nice beach. You will never convince me that THIS is the smoking gun that proves Dr. Fauci corrupt, finally, after 50 years in public service. It's too stupid. Oh, ok. So before his only reward was his "public servant salary", but now that you know he's the most highly paid government official (including the President) his salary is now being compared to FAANGs and he's underpaid. What a sacrifice. [0]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3484390/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3484390/ Edit: Fix typo.

arrosenberg 5y ago
> game of function research I assumed this was a typo the first time, but since you repeated it - it's gain* of function. As in a virus gaining a new function. Did you even read that paper? I doesn't say what you are claiming at all. It says they're going to hold a conference to determine if it's worth the risks, and says they should continue the moratorium while they do more research. Ah jeez. > Oh, ok. So before his only reward was his "public servant salary", but now that you know he's the most highly paid government official (including the President) his salary is now being compared to FAANGs and he's underpaid. What a sacrifice. Compared to what he could be making right now? Yeah, absolutely. I appreciate his sacrifice — he's criminally underpaid for how valuable his skills and experience are to the country.
- disgrunt 5y ago
  You continue to sidestep and move goal posts. Ah jeez. You cling to an obvious typo instead of addressing my questions. Ah jeez. Your obvious (and frankly cringeworthy) Fauci bromance aside... From the paper: > Scientists working in this field might say – as indeed I have said – that the benefits of such experiments and the resulting knowledge outweigh the risks.
  - arrosenberg 5y ago
    How have I moved the goal posts? I've maintained that there is no conflict-of-interest here. I like Dr. Fauci, but I mostly don't understand the point of this line of reasoning. Right wing media sources have a long history of vendettas against individuals they perceive to be liberal or against them in some way - that's what this appears to be. I specifically didn't focus on the "typo", except you said it 3 times, so I figured you'd want to know. ...and that quote hardly conveys to "the most vocal proponent". Talk about moving the goal posts!
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  - dang 5y ago
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mullingitover 5y ago
> Oh, ok. So before his only reward was his "public servant salary", but now that you know he's the most highly paid government official (including the President) He is far from the top paid government official. That honor, by a long shot, in nearly every state in the country, goes to college athletic coaches[1]. https://fanbuzz.com/national/highest-paid-state-employees/ https://fanbuzz.com/national/highest-paid-state-employees/

arrosenberg 5y ago

> game of function research I assumed this was a typo the first time, but since you repeated it - it's gain* of function. As in a virus gaining a new function. Did you even read that paper? I doesn't say what you are claiming at all. It says they're going to hold a conference to determine if it's worth the risks, and says they should continue the moratorium while they do more research. Ah jeez. > Oh, ok. So before his only reward was his "public servant salary", but now that you know he's the most highly paid government official (including the President) his salary is now being compared to FAANGs and he's underpaid. What a sacrifice. Compared to what he could be making right now? Yeah, absolutely. I appreciate his sacrifice — he's criminally underpaid for how valuable his skills and experience are to the country.

disgrunt 5y ago
You continue to sidestep and move goal posts. Ah jeez. You cling to an obvious typo instead of addressing my questions. Ah jeez. Your obvious (and frankly cringeworthy) Fauci bromance aside... From the paper: > Scientists working in this field might say – as indeed I have said – that the benefits of such experiments and the resulting knowledge outweigh the risks.
- arrosenberg 5y ago
  How have I moved the goal posts? I've maintained that there is no conflict-of-interest here. I like Dr. Fauci, but I mostly don't understand the point of this line of reasoning. Right wing media sources have a long history of vendettas against individuals they perceive to be liberal or against them in some way - that's what this appears to be. I specifically didn't focus on the "typo", except you said it 3 times, so I figured you'd want to know. ...and that quote hardly conveys to "the most vocal proponent". Talk about moving the goal posts!
  - dang 5y ago
    Please do not perpetuate flamewars on HN, regardless of what another commenter is doing. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 5y ago
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mullingitover 5y ago

> Oh, ok. So before his only reward was his "public servant salary", but now that you know he's the most highly paid government official (including the President) He is far from the top paid government official. That honor, by a long shot, in nearly every state in the country, goes to college athletic coaches[1]. https://fanbuzz.com/national/highest-paid-state-employees/ https://fanbuzz.com/national/highest-paid-state-employees/