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Not all electric cars are 80k Tesla units. In Europe, they recently launched a ShitEV called Dacia Spring. You can buy it in Germany for around $14000 [0]. The

Not all electric cars are 80k Tesla units. In Europe, they recently launched a ShitEV called Dacia Spring. You can buy it in Germany for around $14000 [0]. The world has enough room, and will have enough EVs in time, for regular charging stations for regular people, or even "standard hangout figures" ... we won't all be driving hype. [0] https://www.carscoops.com/2021/03/dacia-spring-ev-prices/ https://www.carscoops.com/2021/03/dacia-spring-ev-prices/

synaesthesisx 5y ago
Teslas also start at about half that (closer to $40K), and are effectively the new Toyota Prius in terms of popularity (in California, at least). I don't consider them luxury vehicles by any means, especially after sitting in a Lucid Air, Mercedes EQS or nicer EVs.
failwhaleshark 5y ago
But hype is faster, stronger, just-around-the-corner, and more magical like a certain loop. Say you have to drive 1000 mi / 1600 km nonstop or have a low battery. So how are EVs going to work practically for everyone who isn't rich without standard swappable battery packs like the original Model S had? -- There "isn't enough room" in ATX; homelessness is being recriminalized. Also, there "isn't enough room" in Denmark for out-of-EU asylum waiting camps because no one wants to host them. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/austin-s-homeless-camping-ban-is-back-in-effect/ar-BB1gCGJ9 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/austin-s-homeless-camping-... https://www.kctv5.com/denmark-passes-law-to-move-asylum-centers-outside-the-eu-it-still-needs-another-country/article_48236484-aeaa-51c4-b132-fafc9184f8e3.html https://www.kctv5.com/denmark-passes-law-to-move-asylum-cent...
- janvidar 5y ago
  You can check out Teslabjørn on Youtube, he is testing pretty much all EVs and publishing his test results, including a 1000KM "high speed run". His reference ICE car is a Kia Ceed hybrid, which completed the run in 9h25m. The fastest EV: 9h35m - Yes, that was an expensive Audi. The fastest Tesla: Model S Long Range - 9h50m All data found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V6ucyFGKWuSQzvI8lMzvvWJHrBS82echMVJH37kwgjE/edit#gid=15442336 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V6ucyFGKWuSQzvI8lMzv... ... and the relevant videos from each test can be found on his Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/bjornnyland https://www.youtube.com/user/bjornnyland

synaesthesisx 5y ago

Teslas also start at about half that (closer to $40K), and are effectively the new Toyota Prius in terms of popularity (in California, at least). I don't consider them luxury vehicles by any means, especially after sitting in a Lucid Air, Mercedes EQS or nicer EVs.

failwhaleshark 5y ago

But hype is faster, stronger, just-around-the-corner, and more magical like a certain loop. Say you have to drive 1000 mi / 1600 km nonstop or have a low battery. So how are EVs going to work practically for everyone who isn't rich without standard swappable battery packs like the original Model S had? -- There "isn't enough room" in ATX; homelessness is being recriminalized. Also, there "isn't enough room" in Denmark for out-of-EU asylum waiting camps because no one wants to host them. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/austin-s-homeless-camping-ban-is-back-in-effect/ar-BB1gCGJ9 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/austin-s-homeless-camping-... https://www.kctv5.com/denmark-passes-law-to-move-asylum-centers-outside-the-eu-it-still-needs-another-country/article_48236484-aeaa-51c4-b132-fafc9184f8e3.html https://www.kctv5.com/denmark-passes-law-to-move-asylum-cent...

janvidar 5y ago
You can check out Teslabjørn on Youtube, he is testing pretty much all EVs and publishing his test results, including a 1000KM "high speed run". His reference ICE car is a Kia Ceed hybrid, which completed the run in 9h25m. The fastest EV: 9h35m - Yes, that was an expensive Audi. The fastest Tesla: Model S Long Range - 9h50m All data found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V6ucyFGKWuSQzvI8lMzvvWJHrBS82echMVJH37kwgjE/edit#gid=15442336 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V6ucyFGKWuSQzvI8lMzv... ... and the relevant videos from each test can be found on his Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/bjornnyland https://www.youtube.com/user/bjornnyland