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Just wait for the mass exodus. Remote work is turning out to be a requirement for hiring people. So once the company starts bleeding (good) people who find re

Just wait for the mass exodus. Remote work is turning out to be a requirement for hiring people. So once the company starts bleeding (good) people who find remote jobs with other companies, they are going to be difficult/impossible to replace. At some point, the execs will have to suck it up and offer remote work.

pinkybanana 5y ago
If remote work is a winning concept on the market, why we needed coronavirus crisis for it to get adopted? Are markets not working?
- luxpir 5y ago
  Markets are not optimized for quality of life. It's one variable of many in a system evolved to coerce the many to benefit the few.
- machinebun 5y ago
  > Markets are not optimized for quality of life. It's one variable of many in a system evolved to coerce the many to benefit the few. You need enough buy in from enough companies to actually have a competitive market for remote work. I think things were moving in that direction but slowly (as things tend to do) - COVID just accelerated the trend.
- pochamago 5y ago
  Inertia, perhaps. We certainly have been seeing reports of digital nomads growing over the last decade, but major shocks can be useful in speeding up transitions. Likely very few CEOs previously imagined how robust the remote work infrastructure had become, and certainly didn't have obvious incentive to implement all the tools until now.
brnt 5y ago
I hear Dublin is already draining and the real estate market folding. The latter a very good thing for non-expats of course.
- ishjoh 5y ago
  I found this as a source: https://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Europe/Ireland/Home-Price-Trends https://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Europe/Ireland/Home-Pric... Adjusted for inflation it does look like it was down a bit during last year, but Q1 there seems to be a rise again. What's interesting is that it looks like the Dublin prices have seen a wild 10 years of volatility.
- entropyie 5y ago
  Nope, maybe a 2% drop in prices from the peak, rent still crazy expensive and not falling, once the government remove rent freezes, it will go up again. Anecdotally a few non Irish techies are leaving but it won't be enough to affect house prices and there are 10k people waiting to buy behind them.
bitcuration 5y ago
No they won't. The very reason of the management chain is manage people, in arm distance, not remotely. The execs understand this best kept secret better than anyone else.

pinkybanana 5y ago

If remote work is a winning concept on the market, why we needed coronavirus crisis for it to get adopted? Are markets not working?

luxpir 5y ago
Markets are not optimized for quality of life. It's one variable of many in a system evolved to coerce the many to benefit the few.
machinebun 5y ago
> Markets are not optimized for quality of life. It's one variable of many in a system evolved to coerce the many to benefit the few. You need enough buy in from enough companies to actually have a competitive market for remote work. I think things were moving in that direction but slowly (as things tend to do) - COVID just accelerated the trend.
pochamago 5y ago
Inertia, perhaps. We certainly have been seeing reports of digital nomads growing over the last decade, but major shocks can be useful in speeding up transitions. Likely very few CEOs previously imagined how robust the remote work infrastructure had become, and certainly didn't have obvious incentive to implement all the tools until now.

brnt 5y ago

I hear Dublin is already draining and the real estate market folding. The latter a very good thing for non-expats of course.

ishjoh 5y ago
I found this as a source: https://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Europe/Ireland/Home-Price-Trends https://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Europe/Ireland/Home-Pric... Adjusted for inflation it does look like it was down a bit during last year, but Q1 there seems to be a rise again. What's interesting is that it looks like the Dublin prices have seen a wild 10 years of volatility.
entropyie 5y ago
Nope, maybe a 2% drop in prices from the peak, rent still crazy expensive and not falling, once the government remove rent freezes, it will go up again. Anecdotally a few non Irish techies are leaving but it won't be enough to affect house prices and there are 10k people waiting to buy behind them.

bitcuration 5y ago

No they won't. The very reason of the management chain is manage people, in arm distance, not remotely. The execs understand this best kept secret better than anyone else.