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That’s what’s frightening about this. I feel not enough people internalize just how primitive the car’s understanding/perception of the world is. A two year old

That’s what’s frightening about this. I feel not enough people internalize just how primitive the car’s understanding/perception of the world is. A two year old human brain would have no confusion in this scenario. We discount how much the concept of “understanding” is required in visual perception. We don’t just see shapes we have a complete understanding of what we’re seeing. I might see a big rectangle flopping in the lane in front of me. I can immediately ascertain whether it’s a piece of tumbling plywood, or foam based on movement characteristics, color, apparently size, etc. I can then use that understanding to decide what evasive actions are required. A Tesla it seems has absolutely zero of this capability.

hobofan 5y ago
I'm very curious how a LIDAR based system would have faired here. It very much looks like problem that would only appear with a limited vision-only system like Tesla has.
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TheAdamAndChe 5y ago
One time, I fell asleep as a passenger in a car. I hit a bump, looked up, and screamed as I saw what looked like a car coming right for me. It was a tow truck towing a car backwards. It was just enough in my half-asleep state to scare the shit out of me. Humans have millions of years of evolution behind our visual processing systems. We have developed hacks that prevent our brain from getting tricked by unusual situations like traffic lights on trucks or backwards cars being towed. We only developed the first computers a hundred years ago, and only in the last 40 years have a small subset of people started learning about visual processing systems. It's easy to look at this video and scoff because of how trivial it seems. But it's instead a marvel of our minds that we can pick up on context clues so quickly and accurately that such oddities basically never puzzle us. Given the pace of our innovation, it wouldn't surprise me if our computer systems match ours within a few human generations at latest.
- Syonyk 5y ago
  > It was a tow truck towing a car backwards. It was just enough in my half-asleep state to scare the shit out of me. And you're sure that it was a bump, and not the driver pulling up rather close behind it and then giving a sharp tap of the brakes to wake you up? ;)
- belltaco 5y ago
  >One time, I fell asleep in a car. I hit a bump, looked up, and screamed as I saw what looked like a car coming right for me. >It was a tow truck towing a car backwards. It was just enough in my half-asleep state to scare the shit out of me. There are some funny(?) youtube videos of people in the passenger seat waking up to this with tractor trailers being towed in reverse.
- formerly_proven 5y ago
  > Given the pace of our innovation, it wouldn't surprise me if our computer systems match ours within a few human generations at latest. This is not a FLOPS problem. Moore's law can't save you here.

hobofan 5y ago

I'm very curious how a LIDAR based system would have faired here. It very much looks like problem that would only appear with a limited vision-only system like Tesla has.

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TheAdamAndChe 5y ago

One time, I fell asleep as a passenger in a car. I hit a bump, looked up, and screamed as I saw what looked like a car coming right for me. It was a tow truck towing a car backwards. It was just enough in my half-asleep state to scare the shit out of me. Humans have millions of years of evolution behind our visual processing systems. We have developed hacks that prevent our brain from getting tricked by unusual situations like traffic lights on trucks or backwards cars being towed. We only developed the first computers a hundred years ago, and only in the last 40 years have a small subset of people started learning about visual processing systems. It's easy to look at this video and scoff because of how trivial it seems. But it's instead a marvel of our minds that we can pick up on context clues so quickly and accurately that such oddities basically never puzzle us. Given the pace of our innovation, it wouldn't surprise me if our computer systems match ours within a few human generations at latest.

Syonyk 5y ago
> It was a tow truck towing a car backwards. It was just enough in my half-asleep state to scare the shit out of me. And you're sure that it was a bump, and not the driver pulling up rather close behind it and then giving a sharp tap of the brakes to wake you up? ;)
belltaco 5y ago
>One time, I fell asleep in a car. I hit a bump, looked up, and screamed as I saw what looked like a car coming right for me. >It was a tow truck towing a car backwards. It was just enough in my half-asleep state to scare the shit out of me. There are some funny(?) youtube videos of people in the passenger seat waking up to this with tractor trailers being towed in reverse.
formerly_proven 5y ago
> Given the pace of our innovation, it wouldn't surprise me if our computer systems match ours within a few human generations at latest. This is not a FLOPS problem. Moore's law can't save you here.