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I was taught long ago that the key to selling art is to give it a good story. I guess this guy decided to skip all the superfluous parts.

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> I was taught long ago that the key to selling art is to give it a good story. You laugh, but this is absolutely what art is, especially modern art. The best way I've heard to understand art, and this kind of art in particular, is that art is a dialogue - it's a concept and it's a reflection on its environment and its circumstances more than it's a piece of technical execution. This is particularly true of movements like Abstract Expressionism, which tend to garner a lot of the "my kid could have done that"-type comments - they're focused on things like exploring new techniques, on trying to make works with different materials, on trying to express concepts without using form or figure. Works often exist "in conversation" with other works - for instance, an artist may make a painting explicitly referencing another artist's work or as a refutation of a different school of thought, and these works may not be particularly interesting taken as an individual work, but if you understand their context, they can be a fascinating intellectual accomplishment. All of that's a long way to say that if you just look at art as a decorative or technical exercise, you're absolutely not going to understand the art world or often why a piece is considered interesting or valuable - you need to also look at the context of the piece and what the artist was attempting to accomplish to get the full picture.
- anm89 5y ago
  This is true from an explanatory perspective but it still doesn't make it valuable or interesting. The only art in any of this is the art of bilking money from morons who want to impress other morons.
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    > This is true from an explanatory perspective but it still doesn't make it valuable or interesting. This is literally applicable to any subject which the listener doesn't find valuable or interesting. To someone outside our field, kubernetes is neither valuable nor interesting in and of itself either. Nothing is valuable or interesting for its own sole sake.
    - anm89 5y ago
      I guess I'd give you interesting (although plenty of normal people find consumer tech interesting that uses kubernetes under the hood) but kubernetes clearly provides tangible value to many organizations. But yes, I'm also just conveying a subjective opinion. I think this is worthless bullshit designed solely to steal money from suckers. Feel free to subjectively disagree.

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roughly 5y ago

> I was taught long ago that the key to selling art is to give it a good story. You laugh, but this is absolutely what art is, especially modern art. The best way I've heard to understand art, and this kind of art in particular, is that art is a dialogue - it's a concept and it's a reflection on its environment and its circumstances more than it's a piece of technical execution. This is particularly true of movements like Abstract Expressionism, which tend to garner a lot of the "my kid could have done that"-type comments - they're focused on things like exploring new techniques, on trying to make works with different materials, on trying to express concepts without using form or figure. Works often exist "in conversation" with other works - for instance, an artist may make a painting explicitly referencing another artist's work or as a refutation of a different school of thought, and these works may not be particularly interesting taken as an individual work, but if you understand their context, they can be a fascinating intellectual accomplishment. All of that's a long way to say that if you just look at art as a decorative or technical exercise, you're absolutely not going to understand the art world or often why a piece is considered interesting or valuable - you need to also look at the context of the piece and what the artist was attempting to accomplish to get the full picture.

anm89 5y ago
This is true from an explanatory perspective but it still doesn't make it valuable or interesting. The only art in any of this is the art of bilking money from morons who want to impress other morons.
- roughly 5y ago
  > This is true from an explanatory perspective but it still doesn't make it valuable or interesting. This is literally applicable to any subject which the listener doesn't find valuable or interesting. To someone outside our field, kubernetes is neither valuable nor interesting in and of itself either. Nothing is valuable or interesting for its own sole sake.
  - anm89 5y ago
    I guess I'd give you interesting (although plenty of normal people find consumer tech interesting that uses kubernetes under the hood) but kubernetes clearly provides tangible value to many organizations. But yes, I'm also just conveying a subjective opinion. I think this is worthless bullshit designed solely to steal money from suckers. Feel free to subjectively disagree.