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Unless of course said ID is expensive for the poor and they can't afford it (hint: it is). Or you purposely close offices/DMVs in black districts to make it har

Unless of course said ID is expensive for the poor and they can't afford it (hint: it is). Or you purposely close offices/DMVs in black districts to make it harder to obtain that ID (hint: Republicans do). Side note: If you're comparing NPR to Fox News in terms of trustworthiness, your bias is showing.

splistud 5y ago
It is imperative (and almost universally common) that citizens show solid proof of eligibility to vote. Making excuses for why this should not be so in US elections is absolutely ridiculous. And to take it farther and impute nefarious motives to those you don't agree with is about as biased an action as can possibly exist.
- JohnTHaller 5y ago
  Is there some large number of people voting illegally that we and every major US agency has not found?
hourislate 5y ago
If you can't afford an ID in the USA (which is already subsidized for poor people), then there is something very wrong. I still don't want anyone voting that can't prove their identity. And I think we can already guess your bias.
- JohnTHaller 5y ago
  Is there some large number of people voting illegally that we and every major US agency has not found?
  - newfriend 5y ago
    How would we know since they can't check the identity of the voter?
  - hourislate 5y ago
    Never had 66 million votes that were barely vetted. So if you're pro No-ID for voting, are you pro No-ID for driving or employment? Maybe we should just get rid of the option for people to be identified. I'm sure it work out well for society.
- jeffbee 5y ago
  Your statement boils down to not wanting older black people to vote. Many black Americans were born at home in the South because they weren't allowed to use the hospitals and their counties refused to record the births and issue certificates. This was as recently as 50 years ago.
  - hourislate 5y ago
    So for the next 50 years they couldn't get an ID? You're argument is ridiculous.

splistud 5y ago

It is imperative (and almost universally common) that citizens show solid proof of eligibility to vote. Making excuses for why this should not be so in US elections is absolutely ridiculous. And to take it farther and impute nefarious motives to those you don't agree with is about as biased an action as can possibly exist.

JohnTHaller 5y ago
Is there some large number of people voting illegally that we and every major US agency has not found?

hourislate 5y ago

If you can't afford an ID in the USA (which is already subsidized for poor people), then there is something very wrong. I still don't want anyone voting that can't prove their identity. And I think we can already guess your bias.

JohnTHaller 5y ago
Is there some large number of people voting illegally that we and every major US agency has not found?
- newfriend 5y ago
  How would we know since they can't check the identity of the voter?
- hourislate 5y ago
  Never had 66 million votes that were barely vetted. So if you're pro No-ID for voting, are you pro No-ID for driving or employment? Maybe we should just get rid of the option for people to be identified. I'm sure it work out well for society.
jeffbee 5y ago
Your statement boils down to not wanting older black people to vote. Many black Americans were born at home in the South because they weren't allowed to use the hospitals and their counties refused to record the births and issue certificates. This was as recently as 50 years ago.
- hourislate 5y ago
  So for the next 50 years they couldn't get an ID? You're argument is ridiculous.