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Does anyoone find it interesting that the expert (Matt Masterson) is a Democrat appointed by the Obama Administration? Maybe we should get a an International o

Does anyoone find it interesting that the expert (Matt Masterson) is a Democrat appointed by the Obama Administration? Maybe we should get a an International organization to certify the results so we don't have either political party involved in the outcome. Here is another problem, NPR is the source. I think it's safe to say they will always draw on experts that support their narrative (and that's ok). If I posted a FOX News report with a Republican Expert, would that be ok? There is nothing wrong with making sure the results were accurate and correct (in a unbiased way), just like there is nothing wrong with requiring an ID that is recognized by the Government to be able to cast a vote in this country.

lettergram 5y ago
A judge said this audit follows all the laws. It's been litigated. Please do your own research -- not listen to partisan talking points. Here's a public discussion around some of the findings, the Arizona Senate is very clear about what is going on and seems extremely reasonable: https://invintus-client-media.s3.amazonaws.com/6361162879/90 https://invintus-client-media.s3.amazonaws.com/6361162879/90... This audit appears solid to me, I've watched all the court cases and read all the public documents. U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC) provided input regarding the audit (https://www.eac.gov/ https://www.eac.gov/). The president of the Arizona Senate explains this. This is amazing gaslighting by the media. This audit has three people counting, photos of the ballots (to later check), checking folds, etc. This is a very well controlled and good audit. Not perfect, but far better than what we had in the past. There are observers from the secretary of states office, democrats, republicans, independents counting, multiple sign offs and everything is recorded so they can go back. You can view the audit live on some of the cameras: https://azaudit.org/ https://azaudit.org/
- smoldesu 5y ago
  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/maddow-blog-for-arizona-gop-bonkers-election-audit-creates-financial-rewards/ar-AAKFhat https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/maddow-blog-for-ariz...
  - hourislate 5y ago
    What next a link from CNN, NYT or the Atlantic?
    - smoldesu 5y ago
      If I wanted to give you fake news I'd reach straight for Fox. I'm not that dedicated to furnishing misinformation.
      - hourislate 5y ago
        LOL...so predictable, you think I watch or would cite that trash. It's no different than the trash you take for gospel.
JohnTHaller 5y ago
Unless of course said ID is expensive for the poor and they can't afford it (hint: it is). Or you purposely close offices/DMVs in black districts to make it harder to obtain that ID (hint: Republicans do). Side note: If you're comparing NPR to Fox News in terms of trustworthiness, your bias is showing.
- splistud 5y ago
  It is imperative (and almost universally common) that citizens show solid proof of eligibility to vote. Making excuses for why this should not be so in US elections is absolutely ridiculous. And to take it farther and impute nefarious motives to those you don't agree with is about as biased an action as can possibly exist.
  - JohnTHaller 5y ago
    Is there some large number of people voting illegally that we and every major US agency has not found?
- hourislate 5y ago
  If you can't afford an ID in the USA (which is already subsidized for poor people), then there is something very wrong. I still don't want anyone voting that can't prove their identity. And I think we can already guess your bias.
  - JohnTHaller 5y ago
    Is there some large number of people voting illegally that we and every major US agency has not found?
    - newfriend 5y ago
      How would we know since they can't check the identity of the voter?
    - hourislate 5y ago
AaronFriel 5y ago
No, because the quoted expert continued to serve with integrity during the Trump administration. He appeared to transition from one non-partisan government agency (US Election Assistance Commission) to another (Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency in DHS).

lettergram 5y ago

A judge said this audit follows all the laws. It's been litigated. Please do your own research -- not listen to partisan talking points. Here's a public discussion around some of the findings, the Arizona Senate is very clear about what is going on and seems extremely reasonable: https://invintus-client-media.s3.amazonaws.com/6361162879/90 https://invintus-client-media.s3.amazonaws.com/6361162879/90... This audit appears solid to me, I've watched all the court cases and read all the public documents. U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC) provided input regarding the audit (https://www.eac.gov/ https://www.eac.gov/). The president of the Arizona Senate explains this. This is amazing gaslighting by the media. This audit has three people counting, photos of the ballots (to later check), checking folds, etc. This is a very well controlled and good audit. Not perfect, but far better than what we had in the past. There are observers from the secretary of states office, democrats, republicans, independents counting, multiple sign offs and everything is recorded so they can go back. You can view the audit live on some of the cameras: https://azaudit.org/ https://azaudit.org/

smoldesu 5y ago
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/maddow-blog-for-arizona-gop-bonkers-election-audit-creates-financial-rewards/ar-AAKFhat https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/maddow-blog-for-ariz...
- hourislate 5y ago
  What next a link from CNN, NYT or the Atlantic?
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    If I wanted to give you fake news I'd reach straight for Fox. I'm not that dedicated to furnishing misinformation.
    - hourislate 5y ago
      LOL...so predictable, you think I watch or would cite that trash. It's no different than the trash you take for gospel.

JohnTHaller 5y ago

Unless of course said ID is expensive for the poor and they can't afford it (hint: it is). Or you purposely close offices/DMVs in black districts to make it harder to obtain that ID (hint: Republicans do). Side note: If you're comparing NPR to Fox News in terms of trustworthiness, your bias is showing.

splistud 5y ago
It is imperative (and almost universally common) that citizens show solid proof of eligibility to vote. Making excuses for why this should not be so in US elections is absolutely ridiculous. And to take it farther and impute nefarious motives to those you don't agree with is about as biased an action as can possibly exist.
- JohnTHaller 5y ago
  Is there some large number of people voting illegally that we and every major US agency has not found?
hourislate 5y ago
If you can't afford an ID in the USA (which is already subsidized for poor people), then there is something very wrong. I still don't want anyone voting that can't prove their identity. And I think we can already guess your bias.
- JohnTHaller 5y ago
  Is there some large number of people voting illegally that we and every major US agency has not found?
  - newfriend 5y ago
    How would we know since they can't check the identity of the voter?
  - hourislate 5y ago

AaronFriel 5y ago

No, because the quoted expert continued to serve with integrity during the Trump administration. He appeared to transition from one non-partisan government agency (US Election Assistance Commission) to another (Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency in DHS).