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> I've tried to understand the core issue and frankly, failed It's quite straight forward. Up until WWI, Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived in Palestine, whi

> I've tried to understand the core issue and frankly, failed It's quite straight forward. Up until WWI, Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived in Palestine, which it and other areas of Arabia and North Africa were under Ottoman rule. During WWI, Sykes–Picot divided up the Muslim lands into arbitrary borders to make them easier to occupy. Syria was occupied by the French, Libya by the Italians, etc. Palestine was under British rule. Post WWII, the Zionists convinced Britain to give them Palestine, so they moved in and formed an illegal government, which ironically applied similar tactics the Nazis applied to the Jews in WWII (ethnic cleansing, killing discriminately, etc.). The conflict continues to this day until the Palestinians get back their rightful land.n Edit: changed WWII to WWI.

BeFlatXIII 5y ago
…and how exactly are they supposed to “get back their rightful land”?
- gher-shyu3i 5y ago
  Same way the Zionists stole it.
- gher-shyu3i 5y ago
  They'll fight for it, just as how the enemy is fighting to kick them out.
extra88 5y ago
You're mixing up history. The Sykes–Picot Agreement was made in 1916. The Ottoman Empire was no more long before WWII. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement
- gher-shyu3i 5y ago
  I meant WWI. I'll edit my post. The point remains however.
tobesure 5y ago
>The Zionists convinced Britain to give them Palestine, so they moved in and formed an illegal government, which ironically applied similar tactics the Nazis applied to the Jews in WWII (ethnic cleansing, killing discriminately, etc.). The conflict continues to this day until the Palestinians get back their rightful land The issue is far more complex than that. The land in Sheik Jarrah, for example, the center of the most recent conflict, was sold to Jews in the 1800s, and these evictions occurred because Palestinians (unironically also settlers in this case) did not pay obligated rent for decades. Further, this anti-settler/anti-colonizer justification is inconsistently applied. The Al Asqa mosque is built on the ruins of a Jewish temple - so how long must a group of people occupy an area before they are no longer considered "settlers" or "occupiers" within the modern progressive framework?

BeFlatXIII 5y ago

…and how exactly are they supposed to “get back their rightful land”?

gher-shyu3i 5y ago
Same way the Zionists stole it.
gher-shyu3i 5y ago
They'll fight for it, just as how the enemy is fighting to kick them out.

extra88 5y ago

You're mixing up history. The Sykes–Picot Agreement was made in 1916. The Ottoman Empire was no more long before WWII. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement

gher-shyu3i 5y ago
I meant WWI. I'll edit my post. The point remains however.

tobesure 5y ago

>The Zionists convinced Britain to give them Palestine, so they moved in and formed an illegal government, which ironically applied similar tactics the Nazis applied to the Jews in WWII (ethnic cleansing, killing discriminately, etc.). The conflict continues to this day until the Palestinians get back their rightful land The issue is far more complex than that. The land in Sheik Jarrah, for example, the center of the most recent conflict, was sold to Jews in the 1800s, and these evictions occurred because Palestinians (unironically also settlers in this case) did not pay obligated rent for decades. Further, this anti-settler/anti-colonizer justification is inconsistently applied. The Al Asqa mosque is built on the ruins of a Jewish temple - so how long must a group of people occupy an area before they are no longer considered "settlers" or "occupiers" within the modern progressive framework?