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This is still a huge deal though. Facebook and google scour so much data through stuff like facebook pixels and google analytics - there's no need to give them

by geewee 5y ago

This is still a huge deal though. Facebook and google scour so much data through stuff like facebook pixels and google analytics - there's no need to give them anymore than what they already have.

smoldesu 5y ago
What's the point though? They can still continue to collect data on you based on your Chrome history, the Tweets you like, the articles your read, and everywhere else you interact with their discrete services. Apple is swatting privacy flies when Google and Facebook are holding a knife to your throat. Furthermore, it's not like Apple themselves don't provide targeted ads[0]. All they're doing now is inroading the ad system through their own proprietary API so they can get a cut. What was wrong with the previous one, you may ask? It wasn't making them enough mone- erm... it wasn't secure enough! GUID fingerprinting isn't vague enough! [0] https://searchads.apple.com/advanced/ https://searchads.apple.com/advanced/
- pdimitar 5y ago
  > What's the point though? I am not inside any of these corps but I started using a PiHole at home for 7 months now. Plus I installed ad/tracking blockers on all of family's devices, and installed every possible privacy addon on their web browsers. The result? In the rare cases when I had to open up the machine and so the PiHole was down, we've all seen the most random ads you can imagine -- and super generic. They knew my mother's phone was of an elderly woman so they pushed ads of all sorts of knee protectors and sore throat pills... ironically she has zero problems with both! Same for me. Apparently being 40+ I now need to buy one car each week and dream of going to "beach retreats full of young women" (that was literally the text of 10+ ads I've seen). Little do they know I am very happily married. Examples abound. It's kind of hilarious. Back to your point, and with us being techies, I think we are under no illusion that the corps still know quite a few things about us. But I am here to tell you that if you try well enough they'll eventually lose the big picture of you and will only have a few separate quanta of data about you which they aren't sure what to do with -- at least when it comes to targeted advertising.

by geewee 5y ago

This is still a huge deal though. Facebook and google scour so much data through stuff like facebook pixels and google analytics - there's no need to give them anymore than what they already have.

smoldesu 5y ago

What's the point though? They can still continue to collect data on you based on your Chrome history, the Tweets you like, the articles your read, and everywhere else you interact with their discrete services. Apple is swatting privacy flies when Google and Facebook are holding a knife to your throat. Furthermore, it's not like Apple themselves don't provide targeted ads[0]. All they're doing now is inroading the ad system through their own proprietary API so they can get a cut. What was wrong with the previous one, you may ask? It wasn't making them enough mone- erm... it wasn't secure enough! GUID fingerprinting isn't vague enough! [0] https://searchads.apple.com/advanced/ https://searchads.apple.com/advanced/

pdimitar 5y ago
> What's the point though? I am not inside any of these corps but I started using a PiHole at home for 7 months now. Plus I installed ad/tracking blockers on all of family's devices, and installed every possible privacy addon on their web browsers. The result? In the rare cases when I had to open up the machine and so the PiHole was down, we've all seen the most random ads you can imagine -- and super generic. They knew my mother's phone was of an elderly woman so they pushed ads of all sorts of knee protectors and sore throat pills... ironically she has zero problems with both! Same for me. Apparently being 40+ I now need to buy one car each week and dream of going to "beach retreats full of young women" (that was literally the text of 10+ ads I've seen). Little do they know I am very happily married. Examples abound. It's kind of hilarious. Back to your point, and with us being techies, I think we are under no illusion that the corps still know quite a few things about us. But I am here to tell you that if you try well enough they'll eventually lose the big picture of you and will only have a few separate quanta of data about you which they aren't sure what to do with -- at least when it comes to targeted advertising.